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Bush not told about plane scare until after biking
asia.news.yahoo ^ | Thursday May 12, 8:24 AM | Reuters

Posted on 05/11/2005 8:56:13 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet

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To: Tulsa Ramjet
LOL, with all your meaningful retorts, I'm deeply offended......NOT!!!!!

You are not fooling anyone my friend, I've seen your king come and go here, and keep it up... and I'm sure you will join the "GO" list shortly

61 posted on 05/11/2005 10:24:34 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Please excuse my spelling error... "king" = "kind"


62 posted on 05/11/2005 10:26:24 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

I think it's ZOT time.


63 posted on 05/11/2005 10:26:25 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: Ramius

"Get a grip. This whole situation was under far better control than you imagine well before you even knew about it."

Get cable tv, and have a look at the reports on what is continuing to happen down at the southern border. And no I'm not blaming Bush for the mess that's been there a while.


64 posted on 05/11/2005 10:26:51 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
All would want to be informed.

Yes, I'm sure they would. By the time that Bush could be informed, the event was over. Is this some kind of mystery to you?

65 posted on 05/11/2005 10:27:08 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: marblehead17

NAH.... Ramjet hasn't reached that level yet, he has taken a beating quite well so far :-)


66 posted on 05/11/2005 10:27:46 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: MJY1288
I've seen your king come and go here

That has potential as a tag line.

67 posted on 05/11/2005 10:28:39 PM PDT by Flyer (If I were 8 pixels tall I could fit in my tag line)
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To: Flyer

LOL, Kinda like "All your base are belong to us" :-)


68 posted on 05/11/2005 10:29:37 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: West Coast Conservative
They should have told the President immediately.

Do we KNOW that the President was NOT advised immediately?

69 posted on 05/11/2005 10:31:24 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Get cable tv, and have a look at the reports on what is continuing to happen down at the southern border.

Dang... cable TV... good thought. I wish I'd thunk of it.

Southern border? Did this plane fly over it? I thought this plane was from Pennsylvania. Dang... best we should just "seal" dem borders anyway. Press the big zip-lock in the sky. That'll do it.

70 posted on 05/11/2005 10:31:38 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Cobra64

DING DING DING....... WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


71 posted on 05/11/2005 10:32:21 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: BearWash
What a doofus statement. Like no amount of energy in any weapons systems deliverable by air can touch the "safe" area under the White House.

I'd suggest you do your homework. I know two folks who have served in the WH. "Downstairs" is pretty impressive. I will leave it at that....

72 posted on 05/11/2005 10:35:34 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Ramius

"By the time that Bush could be informed, the event was over"

Don't think so pal. As the commo aboard my ship, I talked to NCA all the time instantly. No big deal at all.

I guess my final question is this, if the plane did hit the WH (remember now, three minutes away) causing great damage to life and property, and a staffer said "Mr. President, we were tracking a small plane that had entered the restricted air space and it appears it hit the WH." PRES: How long was it in the restricted air space?" STAFFER: Approx. 10 minutes. PRES: Did we elevate the threat to red? STAFFER: Yes sir. PRES: Why wasn't I notified?

I truly truly do not understand the big deal. The mystery is why is it a considered a mystery.


73 posted on 05/11/2005 10:36:17 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Cobra64

I left that one alone :-), The Basement of the White House can survive a direct hit by a Nuclear tipped Missile. That Cessna wouldn't amount to a fly in the ointment


74 posted on 05/11/2005 10:38:47 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( LIBERALISM IS FOR INVERTEBRATES)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

Tulsa, you might want to cool your jets. IMOHO. There are too many assumptions going around here. Not knowing the facts, is a dangerous course. IMOHO


75 posted on 05/11/2005 10:39:29 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64

I smell ozone.


76 posted on 05/11/2005 10:40:38 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: MJY1288

My concern would have been whether this was a distraction for hits 2 and 3, etc. I would have wanted to know pretty much real time.

But then, I'm a doctor (and a wife and moma) and I don't think like a general or a Secret Service agent. I'm sure I don't think like a President. I think like someone with more manageable problems, that *I* personally must resolve, without a whole intelligence service and army, etc., behind/in front of me.


77 posted on 05/11/2005 10:41:53 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Cobra64

"too many assumptions."

True. But alas, meaningful discussions to better ourselves and better support our elected leaders is the best gift of a free society. Condemnation for questioning process is unfortunate.


78 posted on 05/11/2005 10:45:18 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: hocndoc

I think what made this situation unique (did anyone else hear this/read this) was that the pilot wasn't responding to calls for identification. If some dimwit with a pilot's license gets cocky and flies into the WH airspace, but tells the controllers that he's there, the president shouldn't be alerted until afterwards.

But if a small craft refuses to ID itself and there is an evacuation occurring, why not at least appraise him of the situation? No need to spirit him off somewhere. Just let him in on what's going on.


79 posted on 05/11/2005 10:46:44 PM PDT by slightlyovertaxed
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To: MJY1288

Thanks. I'm glad you said it. Ramjet appaears a little green to be ... whatever. And, Ramjet seems a little loose-in-the-sprocket.


80 posted on 05/11/2005 10:46:49 PM PDT by Cobra64
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