So you have a personal issue with Jews who admit that Jesus is the Messiah; and like so many with personal issues, you feel it should be universal policy.
You'll have to understand, though, that not everyone feels himself to be ruled by your issues.
Meanwhile in the world of those who can look at the facts without any particular need to deny some to affirm others, your case is far from compelling.
You'll say that someone who does not believe that one word of the Tenach is the Word of God, who does not feel himself conscience-bound to believe or practice anything in it (i.e. a Reformed Jew), is a Jew.
But if someone by contrast does affirm every word, every teaching of the entire Tenach, as the very Word of God -- and if he further acknowledges that its Messianic prophecies find their fulfillment in Jesus -- you somehow think you have the right to deny his Jewishness.
As I say, you evidently have a personal issue with Jews who admit the truth about Jesus.
And, as I say, that's just a personal issue, and it would serve you and others well to keep it on that level. I pray you will deal with it in truth, in the spirit of Mishley 30:1-6.
Dan
It is both a personal (since this is a pet peeve of mine) and a Jewish issue.
You'll have to understand, though, that not everyone feels himself to be ruled by your issues.
That's fine. However, to actual Jews, the opinion of Christians regarding the question of "who is a Jew" is irrelevant.
Meanwhile in the world of those who can look at the facts without any particular need to deny some to affirm others, your case is far from compelling.
Oh, right, you're the "objective" party here. [rolls eyes]
Again, your opinion is irrelevant. Jews do not believe in Christianity, and do not accept Christians as Jews. Get over it.
You'll say that someone who does not believe that one word of the Tenach is the Word of God, who does not feel himself conscience-bound to believe or practice anything in it (i.e. a Reformed Jew), is a Jew. But if someone by contrast does affirm every word, every teaching of the entire Tenach, as the very Word of God -- and if he further acknowledges that its Messianic prophecies find their fulfillment in Jesus -- you somehow think you have the right to deny his Jewishness.
Yes, that is exactly right. Well, with one caveat: it is not me personally who makes this decision. Rather, this is the position of actual Jews, and of actual Judaism. Don't like it? Tough.
As I say, you evidently have a personal issue with Jews who admit the truth about Jesus.
Judaism has an issue with Jews who accept false beliefs and who fall into apostacy.
If Sekulow believes that Jesus is a dying-and-resurrecting god-man savior, that makes him a good Christian. And an apostate Jew who has cut himself off from his people. It shouldn't be any surprise to you that certain central Christian doctrines are anathema to Judaism. They are two separate religions.