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Will Scramjets Fly Again?
Daily Press.com ^ | 5/11/05 | Dave Schleck

Posted on 05/11/2005 1:58:02 PM PDT by Paul Ross

NASA?s hypersonic program may have a chance of taking off again, despite a gloomy budget picture.

HAMPTON -- A high-speed aeronautics technology called hypersonics, once thought dead at NASA Langley Research Center after two record-breaking flights in recent years, may face a brighter future than expected.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailypress.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aeronautics; flight; hypersonics; mach7; miltech; nasa; scramjet
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1 posted on 05/11/2005 1:58:04 PM PDT by Paul Ross
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To: Paul Ross

Does anyone really think the SR71 is not around?


2 posted on 05/11/2005 2:00:25 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Does anyone really think the SR71 is not around?

I believe that.

The SR-71 first flew in 1964, I have to believe that we have moved well beyond the capabilities of a 41 year old airplane.

3 posted on 05/11/2005 2:08:14 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Paul Ross

Man, they need to attach a warhead to these bad boys. What missile defense, they won't even know what hit 'em!


4 posted on 05/11/2005 2:09:49 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: ruiner

What makes you think that haven't already? Why has this subject been so quiet for the last few years?


5 posted on 05/11/2005 2:18:26 PM PDT by Waterleak (I pity the fool)
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To: demlosers; RadioAstronomer; Okie2; Frank_Discussion; Physicist; Light Speed; Starwind
Pinging. Some salient article high points:

"Aeronautics supports lament the fact that NASA has no money slated for future hypersonic flights, even after Langley Research Center helped the agency achieve two record-setting missions in 2003 and 2004.

Adding to the gloom is the fact that hypersonics now falls under NASA's Vehicle Systems program, which takes a hard hit under President Bush's budget proposal.

But there is reason for optimism, according to Chuck McClinton, a Langley researcher and cheerleader for hypersonics. McClinton hopes to get new NASA administrator Michael Griffin's attention when Griffin visits Langley on Friday.

"Griffin is a breath of fresh air," said McClinton, pulling out transcripts of hypersonic-friendly quotes from the new administrator. NAS

A gave a knee-jerk reaction when President Bush announced last year that he wanted to send humans to the moon and Mars, an initiative that has played out in aeronautics cuts, McClinton said.

"NASA said we're going to shut everything else down and just do exploration," McClinton said. "I think Griffin is going to stir things up."

6 posted on 05/11/2005 2:18:49 PM PDT by Paul Ross (United we stand, diversified we splinter.)
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To: Waterleak

> Why has this subject been so quiet for the last few years?

Because scramjets are an expensive, difficult and unproven technology with few real applications.


7 posted on 05/11/2005 2:19:55 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I also am afraid the sun has truly set on the SR-71, Xlinton made sure of that, wonderful as that supersonic craft was.


8 posted on 05/11/2005 2:22:04 PM PDT by Paul Ross (United we stand, diversified we splinter.)
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To: orionblamblam

How do you know, do you work on them? The only application that would need it is something that needs to go really fast.


9 posted on 05/11/2005 2:23:09 PM PDT by Waterleak (I pity the fool)
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To: RJL

Well, the engine is still advanced beyond years - they will never duplicate the J58, and the airframe is able to be improved. The way it operated hasn't been duplicated, at least that the public knows.


10 posted on 05/11/2005 2:23:13 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: orionblamblam
Because scramjets are an expensive, difficult and unproven technology with few real applications

Expensive, maybe. But difficult and unproven? Nopers.

11 posted on 05/11/2005 2:25:01 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Tennessee_Bob

Bird thread.


12 posted on 05/11/2005 2:25:15 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Paul Ross

See:

1. Aurora

2. Pumpkin Seed

3. Mother

4. Have Teal

5. Rialto

All deep black but great projects.


13 posted on 05/11/2005 2:29:45 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: RJL
The SR-71 while fast is not a scramjet, although the engine technology was and still is wicked cool. It uses the Pratt & Whitney J58.
14 posted on 05/11/2005 2:36:23 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Well, the engine is still advanced beyond years - they will never duplicate the J58, and the airframe is able to be improved. The way it operated hasn't been duplicated, at least that the public knows.

No doubt it's a great airplane.

I just believe that we have built something better, and more likely, that our satellite technology has taken over most or all of our "eyes in the sky" information gathering missions.

15 posted on 05/11/2005 2:36:30 PM PDT by RJL
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To: zencat

Thanks zencat, That Pratt & Whitney J58 picture is a keeper.


16 posted on 05/11/2005 2:38:48 PM PDT by RJL
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To: Paul Ross
"NASA said we're going to shut everything else down and just do exploration," McClinton said. "I think Griffin is going to stir things up."

Yeah, if he can get Congress to cough up a larger NASA budget.

17 posted on 05/11/2005 2:40:35 PM PDT by demlosers (Rumsfeld: "We don't have an exit strategy, we have a victory strategy.'')
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To: zencat

J58, set as computer wallpaper. :-)


18 posted on 05/11/2005 2:42:19 PM PDT by demlosers (Rumsfeld: "We don't have an exit strategy, we have a victory strategy.'')
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To: zencat

Is that engine GLOWING ???


19 posted on 05/11/2005 2:42:40 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who don't)
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To: Paul Ross

when one looks at the technology curve from mid fifties to mid sixties, one see's the curve go stright up. Good chance we got our imput of info from somewhere else and that all I will say.


20 posted on 05/11/2005 2:43:48 PM PDT by Judge Roy
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