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Anchors Away
GOPUSA ^ | May 11, 2005 | Jon E. Dougherty

Posted on 05/11/2005 12:11:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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21 posted on 05/11/2005 2:22:54 PM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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22 posted on 05/11/2005 2:23:03 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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23 posted on 05/11/2005 2:32:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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24 posted on 05/11/2005 2:38:21 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Orange1998
How can the newborn become a citizen when the law is being violated at the time of birth.

It's being violated by the mother, not the newborn. As the law currently stands at least.

25 posted on 05/11/2005 2:42:36 PM PDT by El Gato
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26 posted on 05/11/2005 2:45:58 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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27 posted on 05/11/2005 2:49:30 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Orange1998
How can the newborn become a citizen when the law is being violated at the time of birth.

The newborn doesn't "become" a citizen, under current law they *are* a citizen, just as you and I were when we were born. It's a matter of definition, not of change of status.

Sen. Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the Amendment, declared in 1866:
"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."

I'd like to see a source for this quotation. It's somewhat self contradictory on it's face. If the words "born of" where substituted for "are", it would make more logical sense. I also wonder about the distinction between "foreigners" and "aliens", since they seem like synonyms to me. If it read that way, even children of permanent residents would not be citizens, since they are still "aliens".

I'm extremely leery of inserting "understood" words into the Constitution, where the words of the Constitution are clear and consistent as written. That's how we got to a living document and "right of people" really means "power of the states".

However I don't think that's the real issue, the real issue is all those federal government benefits for anyone, as they are completely unconstitutional. If you remove the "anchor" provisions of law, and send the parents home, regardless of any US Citizen children, that alone would probably solve the problem without reinterpreting the Constitution, as the vast majority would not leave their kids here. and if the kids want to come back when they are on their own, that would be OK. In fact I know two people in just that situation, their parents were either illegals or possibly participants in some old temporary "work permit" type system, who after they were born returned to Mexico. Both are hard working, tax paying, citizens.

28 posted on 05/11/2005 3:00:08 PM PDT by El Gato
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Good to see you too J
29 posted on 05/11/2005 3:11:15 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Jaysun

In the context of this article, "anchors away" is correct.


30 posted on 05/11/2005 4:09:08 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Truth is a rare commodity. Seek it, know it and cherish it.)
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To: xzins

When sea-bound, anchors aweigh is correct. In this case, anchors away is a "play on words."


31 posted on 05/11/2005 4:11:10 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Truth is a rare commodity. Seek it, know it and cherish it.)
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To: La Enchiladita
In the context of this article, "anchors away" is correct.

Okay. Sorry, I always do that because most people have never seen "aweigh" (which is what it was originally) used in the phrase.
32 posted on 05/11/2005 4:17:28 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Jaysun

"Aweigh" was my first thought also. I've learned that FReepers are really smart, though, especially when I think I am smarter. :-) That's why I waited (not "weighted") to think about it. LOL.


35 posted on 05/11/2005 5:17:35 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Truth is a rare commodity. Seek it, know it and cherish it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Someone said, 'Really a "no-brainer". '

I ditto that. And a 'no brainer' is an easy issue to pound home. The trick is to find a leader who is willing to say it on the campaign trail.


36 posted on 05/12/2005 2:38:47 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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