[SamuraiScot]

(I)f sex is so inconsequential, you have to wonder why transvestites bother to change their clothes.

[AppyPappy]

I can't wait until the first bigamy trial. "I wasn't serious about it. We were just making a statement."

[Piquaboy]

What do you get if a Homosexual man marrys a Lesbian woman?

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

I think it's time to trot out my very revealing quotes, from noteable and quotable homosexual spokespersons, citing the REAL reasons they want "marriage". (It is NOT because they want to act like a regular Mr. and Mrs!!)

If you are newish to this pinglist, please take the time to read these quotes. And then let others know why "gays" are really pushing for marriage. So called.

Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor who runs the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission, recommends legalizing a wide variety of marriage alternatives, including polyamory, or group wedlock. An example could include a lesbian couple living with a sperm-donor father, or a network of men and women who share sexual relations.

One aim, she says, is to break the stranglehold that married heterosexual couples have on health benefits and legal rights. The other goal is to "push the parameters of sex, sexuality and family, and in the process transform the very fabric of society." ... [snip]


An excerpt from: In Their Own Words: The Homosexual Agenda:
"Homosexual activist Michelangelo Signorile, who writes periodically for The New York Times, summarizes the agenda in OUT magazine (Dec/Jan 1994):

"A middle ground might be to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, redefine the institution of marriage completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society's moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution... The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake --and one that would perhaps benefit all of society--is to transform the notion of family entirely."

"Its the final tool with which to dismantle all sodomy statues, get education about homosexuality and AIDS into the public schools and in short to usher in a sea change in how society views and treats us."

Chris Crain, the editor of the Washington Blade has stated that all homosexual activists should fight for the legalization of same-sex marriage as a way of gaining passage of federal anti-discrimination laws that will provide homosexuals with federal protection for their chosen lifestyle.

Crain writes: "...any leader of any gay rights organization who is not prepared to throw the bulk of their efforts right now into the fight for marriage is squandering resources and doesn't deserve the position." (Washington Blade, August, 2003).

Andrew Sullivan, a homosexual activist writing in his book, Virtually Normal, says that once same-sex marriage is legalized, heterosexuals will have to develop a greater "understanding of the need for extramarital outlets between two men than between a man and a woman."

He notes: "The truth is, homosexuals are not entirely normal; and to flatten their varied and complicated lives into a single, moralistic model is to miss what is essential and exhilarating about their otherness." (Sullivan, Virtually Normal, pp. 202-203)

Paula Ettelbrick, a law professor and homosexual activist has said:

"Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so. . Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family; and in the process, transforming the very fabric of society. . We must keep our eyes on the goals of providing true alternatives to marriage and of radically reordering society's view of reality." (partially quoted in "Beyond Gay Marriage,"

Stanley Kurtz, The Weekly Standard, August 4, 2003)
Evan Wolfson has stated:

"Isn't having the law pretend that there is only one family model that works (let alone exists) a lie? . marriage is not just about procreation-indeed is not necessarily about procreation at all. "(quoted in "What Marriage Is For," by Maggie Gallagher, The Weekly Standard, August 11, 2003)

Mitchel Raphael, editor of the Canadian homosexual magazine Fab, says:

"Ambiguity is a good word for the feeling among gays about marriage. I'd be for marriage if I thought gay people would challenge and change the institution and not buy into the traditional meaning of 'till death do us part' and monogamy forever. We should be Oscar Wildes and not like everyone else watching the play." (quoted in "Now Free To Marry, Canada's Gays Say, 'Do I?'" by Clifford Krauss, The New York Times, August 31, 2003)

1972 Gay Rights Platform Demands: "Repeal of all legislative provisions that restrict the sex or number of persons entering into a marriage unit."

[Also among the demands was the elimination of all age of consent laws.]

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.

[goldstategop]

That's why there's little attention paid to female homosexuality in religious literature. Women don't do things to each other's bodies that men do to each other's bodies during sex and moreover, lesbians don't engage in the promiscuous sexual activity men do. Male sexuality is inherently destructive and has to be put under social controls such as marriage. Men can commit rape. Men can sleep around with little regard for the health or emotional consequences of their behavior. Women seldom behave in that manner. So it stands to reason male gays would not be interested in committing to a single partner their entire lives the way women do - the male nature for variety is just too intense to completely overcome.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[lionheart 247365]

Wait til the international brotherhood of fudge packers here this . ( Call Elton and have him put it on hold ) .. .. ..

[GovernmentShrinker]

Freedom-loving people want government to get out of ALL involvement with defining/registering/approving/licensing people's intimate relationships and family/household arrangements.

[Fido969]

I've been aware of this for some time.

Generally, men do not want to get married. For heterosexual men marriage represents a time when boyhood is over - marriage is commitment, responsibility, and supporting a family - support that is required even when the marriage ends. (Gay marriage is about health insurance benefits, access to government programs and special rights.)

Women, on the other hand grow up with the belief that marriage is a grand and glorious success - as little girls they dream of their wedding day. (What man "dreams of his wedding day"?)

So, the only gay men who will get married are those that want access to government benefits - but many gay women will get married because they want to have access to the grand ceremony and percieved social success of marriage.

[longtermmemmory]

The article seems to designed to go with the whinny woman sterotype complain of men want only sex and women only want comitment. Or perhaps women only comit to women.


Seems a bit of a strain.


I don't dispute the genceral concepts, only the delivery.