Posted on 05/11/2005 4:30:01 AM PDT by bikepacker67
Please don't insult me. "free traitors" is most certainly namecalling. bikepacker67, you posted this important thread, you obviously want replies, I simply asked that you treat those repliers with respect.
There have been attempts at legislation requiring hospitals to do some type of investigation as to legal status, but the hospitals have been against this, saying that it is not their job to enforce immigration laws.
This has been going on for years. In fact, Governer Bush was a vocal critic of federal policy.
In his 02-05 budgets, Bush requested funding for this, but Congress did not appropriate the money.
I share your sentiment. They didn't even give tax paying legal citizens the courtesy of a public debate on this issue before they attached it to a defense spending bill. This is truly taxation without representation. How many Americans who pay for their own health care do you think would support this bill? If this were Clinton wouldn't we demand accountability for this treasonous act of spending American tax dollars on health care for illegal immigrants?
If this were Clinton, FreeRepublic would be visited by the Secret Service because so many posters would be calling for assassination of the Traitor.
Our hospitals are going broke and we are paying more for our care due to treating so many illegals. Fox needs these people dumped back in his lap pronto! The term "illegal" seems to have no explicit meaning to our government.
Ben Ficklin asks one very relevant question. “Should or should not the feds re-imburse the states for these costs?”
On one hand it seems like a good thing that the cost for treating illegals is being reimbursed, perhaps preventing many more emergency rooms from closing, as has been the case in California. On the other hand, we’re being screwed again.
It’s still our money being used to treat unwelcome illegals, primarily from Mexico
When federal money is thrown at the medical profession, it expands and gobbles up even more money.
After the money expands, and costs increase to treat illegals, we now have to compete with the government induced inflated costs for our own medical service.
Anything the Federal government funds, becomes a fiscal disaster.
Now if Congress made a law requiring all services to Mexican citizens to be paid for by the Mexican government then, by all means, provide the service, and send the bill. No pay, no service.
If compassionate US citizens want to pay for services to illegal Mexicans, then set up a bank account to which they can contribute. Then, so long as the account is solvent, provide the service.
I don’t remember voting to support this free service and as one of our founders already stated, there is nothing in the Constitution that permits spending by Congress for beneovolent causes. Worse yet, the evil bastards in Congress are simply spending us further into debt.
To answer Ben Ficklins question, the government (we the people) should not be providing free medical services to illegal visitors, nor should the medical community be forced to provide these services for free. No matter now you slice it, the cost to treat indigent illegal Mexicans is borne by working Americans.
Of course I'm not calling for any sort of violence but I'm not feeling the level of outrage I'd expect from "small government" conservatives on this issue. Wasn't universal health care the biggest issue that riled conservatives during Clinton's first term? Is it ok to be anti universal health care coverage for Americans but pro universal health care for illegals? Why won't our conservative leaders realize that guest worker programs, driver's licenses, free education, free health care, and college tuition assistance won't reduce the number of illegals invading our country? And finally why do conservatives who hated politically correct speech during the Clinton administration accept it when our president refers to the Minutemen as vigilantes and to illegal immigrants as undocumented workers? Like I said I'm not feeling the outrage.
If you were to take the time to chase down the numerous threads complaining about non-re-imbursement from 30-60 days ago, you will see that 100% of freepers complained.
In the last couple of days there have been numerous threads in which freepers now complain that there will be re-imbursement.
This implies that freepers are poorly informed/can't connect two events, or they are just chronic complainers.
Interesting. It's not hospitals jobs to enforce child molestation or spouse abuse laws either, but when hospitals/doctors suspect it, they certainly contact the cops.
I can't imagine negative "unintended consequences" if hospitals were required to notify authorities of patients who did not have proper identification.
Federal Government $ = Taxpayer $
Well, I'M happy about it.
No faster way to get the fence sitters in non-effected states off the dime & on the right side of this issue.
If the Federal Government (AKA we, the taxpayers) is paying for medical treatment for illegal aliens, they have to be able to identify those on whose behalf the payments are being made. I now I'm obviously ignorant and unenlightened, but if the Feds know on whose behalf they're making the paymenets, COULDN'T THEY JUST PICK UP AND DEPORT THE SAME PEOPLE??
Reimbure the states, identify the illegal aliens who're sponging off the taxpayers and deport them.
Simple. If the hospitals want to be reimbursed for expenses they incur in caring for illegal aliens, they should be required to identify the aliens and, after the aliens have received whatever treatment they need to be stabilized so they can be returned to their countries of origin, they should be deported.
Why should I have to work to pay for some illegal p.o.s.?
Because certain Corporations need cheap labor to do the "jobs that Americans won't do".
Or something like that.
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