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To: NewRomeTacitus
If our country was caught in a another global conflict we'd be totally screwed because our entire manufacturing base has been outsourced.

Not quite but almost. Just recently, former Michigan Governor and current American Manufacturers Association President Engler, in a speech this week said that there are about 15 million workers in manufacturing. I would presume that figure includes all the white collar management and administrative personnel, which means there aren't too many manual labor jobs if the skilled trades are factored out.

Since agriculture is also becoming highly mechanized and manual labor needs are decreasing, where in the h*ll are all these millions of illegals finding jobs? Are there really that many lawncare, room service and construction jobs going begging to absorb the millions crossing our borders each year?

152 posted on 05/11/2005 6:03:48 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: varon
Since agriculture is also becoming highly mechanized and manual labor needs are decreasing, where in the h*ll are all these millions of illegals finding jobs? Are there really that many lawncare, room service and construction jobs going begging to absorb the millions crossing our borders each year?

The thing about economies is demand isn't static. When things become cheaper because of immigrants or automation, people simply demand more. Its a never ending cycle, which is why regardless of how efficient we get, how many immigrants we let in, or how much we buy things from China, there is still jobs if we want them.

174 posted on 05/11/2005 7:39:32 AM PDT by ran15
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To: varon

"Since agriculture is also becoming highly mechanized and manual labor needs are decreasing, where in the h*ll are all these millions of illegals finding jobs? Are there really that many lawncare, room service and construction jobs going begging to absorb the millions crossing our borders each year?"

You forgot Heating / HVAC apprentice, Auto Body Apprentice, Auto mechanic, Mason / bricklayer apprentice, carpentry apprentice, plumbing apprentice, electrician apprentice........

All jobs that SHOULD be going to American citizens who will gtraduate this June from out State trade / tech highschools...... now these American kids can look forward to a freaking McJob the rest of their lives.

In the building where my business is located 1/2 of the people employed here (not in my business) are illegals. This is common place. The bogus figure that Goobermint floats about there being 7 to 9 million illegals in our country is laughable. I'd be willing to bet there are that many in the New England States alone.

The average "American working Joe" is being assaulted from both ends... from people coming in on work visas...as well as illegals ....


190 posted on 05/11/2005 10:13:18 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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