[MadIvan]

Agreed. The Soviets did not start winning the war until Stalin shut up and actually let Marshal Zhukov run things. Hitler, in contrast, listened to his generals less and less. Zhukov versus Hitler was no contest.

Regards, Ivan

[ABG(anybody but Gore)]

And let's not forget the thousands of Red Army vets who were shipped off to the Gulag after the war for committing the crime of seeing Europe outside of Russia.

[Lion in Winter]

I look at the celebration train as a re-enactment of what happened on the 1st celebration after the victory.

Sommetimes a cigar is just a cigar... sometimes a picture of that GEORGIAN DICATOR, JOSEPH STALIN IS JUST A PICTURE.

:^ ) LOL

[Churchillspirit]

I'm hearing rumours from back home that the Queen did not attend the WW11 commemorations because Blair did not want her too.

Any truth to this?

FRegards,

[quietolong]

No. It was the USA who lead the victory over Germany.
Not only did we give them everything from airplanes to A-bombs. But also gave them all the German battle plans. gotten from our breaking the Japanese purple code. ( yes the Japanese ) ( a good read on this is the book:
Marching Orders
Bruce Lee 1995 )
And
Hitler And the SS
One of the reasons The German Army advanced so fast. Is at first the people looked at Hitler as there savior & liberator from Stalin. So did not fight and “ stuck there bayonets in the snow” .
The dumb SS after there capture started shooting them and sent the off to the camps.
So they had a choice die under Hitler or live under Stalin. And started to fight back.
If the Germans had treated these people as liberated people. They would have picked up there arms and lead the way to Moscow.