[Dimensio]

I am not sure that ALL the creationists are being blatantly dishonest. I suspect some are simply not capable of critical thought, and are accustomed to thinking passion equals logic etc.

The problem is that there are a good number of creationists who are patently dishonest to the point of outright lying (such as out-of-context or even fabricated quotes) and then lying further when the original lie is exposed that it creates the impression that creationism itself is founded in dishonesty. What's worse, they are rarely called to task by their fellow creationists, and many of their fellow creationists will go out of their way to defend their comrades who are being "attacked" with shameless "name-calling" because apparently it's wrong for us to call someone a liar when they tell lies. Even if the real liars are in the minority, they're still present in a significant enough proportion (as opposed to the liars who might appear on any other contentious discussion here on FR) that it creates such an impression.

[mlc9852]

Kinda like scientists with the global warming scare?

[Tungenchek]

Well I am not disagreeing with you at all.

Basically what I was trying to say is that is that while you correctly point out some creationist/religionists are patent liars the others are not really aware that they are lying.

When you are lied to about something by someone you have faith in has told you....when you pass that lie on as truth do you recognize it?



They have been lied to so much and so often by those they have faith in...they simply do not know fact from fiction
honesty from dishonesty.


Or sumpin like that .. :o)