Scientists in the Kansas intelligent design hearings make their case public

AP ^ | 5/9/05 | John Hanna

[qam1]

Thank You Kansas

From the parents of these kids

Who in the future will be competing against your kids for dominance of the world.

[mirkwood]

[paulmartin]

the guy's an evolutionist. the picture has (evolutionist) Chinese children who are supposed to be smarter than Creationist American children. The average Creationist has roughly the same intelligence as the average evolutionist, and since Creationists realize that the Creation of Genesis has the truth, Creationists are actually smarter.

[Petronius]

Kansas has schools? Things are better than I'd thought.

Intelligent design says some features of the natural world are best explained by an intelligent cause because they are well ordered and complex.

For instance: schizophrenia, hemorrhoids, MS, MD, bubonic plague, cancer...And to think I've been stumbling through life thinking these (and innumerable other "features") were the result of a blind and indifferent process!

[AntiGuv]

If I'm not mistaken, the trendy theory is that those things aren't explained by the intelligent cause, but rather by the absence of the intelligent causer.. Get with the program!

[DYR]

You miss the point :-)
While the current administration attempts to limit the stem cell research and bio-genetical research, the China authorities actually encourage it. Do you know what is the ONLY thing they ban in the bio-research? They ban reproductive human cloning, but only it.

The actual point is, that a nation that stifles scientific progress, in some point of history will surely become technologically and economically weaker then the nation that encourages it. Thus, In a few years, China will have an advantage in biological sciences.

[little jeremiah]

ping to self for later pingout.

[mlc9852]

Are you saying China will have a biological/technological development advantage over the US because the students in Kansas will be taught the weaknesses with the theory of evolution? Seems to me learning more about problems with evolution would be a way to encourage more scientific discourse.

[explodingspleen]

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v434/n7037/full/4341062a.html

[DYR]

Not really. It is, actually, my guess that the author of the post makes this connection. However, MY point about possible future disadvantage is still valid, and since the Intelligent Design proponents are also in many cases the people that try to limit biogenetic research of humans (both on religious basis), the connection is obvious.

[mlc9852]

Do you favor stem cell research from aborted remains?

[DYR]

I do not favor anything in that respect. I have yet to reach a solid opinion, although I'm against abortions. Technically, though, you either make stem cell research from aborted remains, or you lag behind China in biomedical research. It's your call.

[PatrickHenry]

Ping list material? We have so many of these going already ...

[mlc9852]

I've read there seems to be more promise in adult stem cells but I readily admit I don't know enough about it to make an informed comment one way or the other. But I do believe that sometimes right trumps economics.

[Junior]

I think so. And, the defenders of ignorance and scientific stagnation are already making noises here.

[Non-Sequitur]

The average Creationist has roughly the same intelligence as the average evolutionist, and since Creationists realize that the Creation of Genesis has the truth, Creationists are actually smarter.

We evolutionists can't be that dumb. I caught the 'genesis' comment.

[crail]

I vote yes. Kansas has given us a real gift... crevo threads every day. We should all enjoy it. :)

[Non-Sequitur]

Kansas has schools? Things are better than I'd thought.

Yes we do. Now if we can only do something about all those pesky munchkins.