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To: knarf

Oh, a tabula rasa type.

Sorry, too much research on biological basis for behavior suggests we do indeed have inborn propensities. Identical twins reared apart go into the same or similar lines of work far more often than do adoptive siblings raised together from birth. In case you hadn't notice, the brain is physical.

We all know that gross deformities of the brain (Downs syndrome, for example) have a genetic basis. Why are you fighting the obvious? Do you really buy the argument that inborn = morally right?


30 posted on 05/09/2005 5:58:01 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (Christ is Risen! Christos Anesti! Khristos Voskrese! Al-Masih Qam! Hristos a Inviat!)
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To: The_Reader_David
"Why are you fighting the obvious? "

How much is one plus one?

This is not a trick question.

35 posted on 05/09/2005 6:08:11 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: The_Reader_David
"How much is one plus one?"

Ding
1/2 hr is too long.
Time's up.

40 posted on 05/09/2005 6:37:15 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Oh, a tabula rasa type.

Sorry, too much research on biological basis for behavior suggests we do indeed have inborn propensities. Identical twins reared apart go into the same or similar lines of work far more often than do adoptive siblings raised together from birth. In case you hadn't notice, the brain is physical.

We all know that gross deformities of the brain (Downs syndrome, for example) have a genetic basis. Why are you fighting the obvious? Do you really buy the argument that inborn = morally right?

You are raising strawman arguments.

Yes, identical twins are similar in many ways, but not in the tendency to go gay.

Some things like Downs have a genetic cause, but some infections do genetic damage, so your analogy to Downs is not complete. You'd have to show that the genetic damage shows up only at the same rate as other bad mutations (which gay does not), or that being gay provides some benefit (like sickle-cell/malaria), which hasn't been found.

My reference is "Perspectives in Biology and Medicine", 43,3, Spring 2001, pg 406, the article is "Infectious Causation of Disease: An Evolutionary Perspective", by Cochran, Ewald and Cochran.

This article notes that the evolutionary fitness load and relatively high incidence matches that of an infectious cause, not a hereditary cause. It's not proof of an infectious cause, but it is sufficient evidence to justify further research.

69 posted on 05/09/2005 8:52:35 PM PDT by slowhandluke
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To: The_Reader_David

tabula rasa was for intelligence, hormones out of sync should get treated as a disorder.


78 posted on 05/09/2005 9:20:08 PM PDT by paulmartin
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