That's the only point I really disagree with you about. I think they're entirely consistent with H5N1 complicated by DIC. And any viral disease that has been treated by aspirin, commonly used to bring down a fever, can cause meningitis/encephalitis (Reyes' syndrome).
We don't know who is giving the symptoms list, in some cases it may be Boxun.
One thing is for certain, the Chinese are being....inscrutable.
I'll be gone for several hours.
At present it's such a rare consideration, Hmm we would need to see more data concerning clinical presentation, interesting data would be if we saw a spread of symptoms such as thromboembolism as well as mucosal bleeding and in general acute hemorrhaging. This would be compelling and consistent with your hypothesis, if it proved to be the case. I will see what I can find available on my side, maybe I can run it down.
"We don't know who is giving the symptoms list, in some cases it may be Boxun. "
OK thanks for that update I will take a look at the Chinese releases in more detail.
"One thing is for certain, the Chinese are being....inscrutable. "
Thats a given:-)
Talk later Judith :-)
Been on vacation, just catching back up.
Many thanks to you and all the others that are keeping this thread up to date.
China assigning 50,000 "medical" personnel to what seems to be a relatively minor problem with pigs, in a region already closed to outside news because of reports of H5N1, has got to be considered a major "red flag".
And, possible recombination between H5N1 and Ebola???
Until now I would have thought recombination between H5N1 and Ebola was impossible, or at least extraordinarily improbable. Furthermore, my impression was that the two diseases are not normally present in the same geographic location. So even if recombination of these two very different viruses was "easy" it would not seem likely simply because the same host would be unlikely to be infected with both at the same time. However, Kelly-2000 would seem to be the perfect person to pour cold water on this possibility from a theoretical standpoint, and she has not done so.
All in all, I think I should have stayed on vacation. Or not read this thread when I came back...
H5N1 Bird Flu Migrates West Toward Europe
Recombinomics Commentary
August 1, 2005
Russia's Emergency Situations Ministry said bird flu in the Novosibirsk region had killed 2,382 poultry, including 127 since Sunday morning.
Mass death of poultry was registered in 18 settlements of the Dovolensky, Kupinsky, Zdvinsky and Chistoozerny districts. ....
"Poultry death cases were also registered in the Omsk region and the Altai territory. In the Omsk region, 450 poultry died, and in the Altai territory - 300, but the diagnosis has not been formally confirmed in these two provinces.
The above descriptions of confirmed and suspected H5N1 in Russia indicate H5N1 is radiating out from the Chany Lake region. The locations in the Novosibisrk region are to the east, south, and west of the Lake.
The Altai territory had already announced a quarantine and now there are suspect bird flu cases. It is southeast of Chany Lake and borders Kazkhstan, China and Mongolia.
The Omsk region is to the west of Novosibirsk and marks the western most region reported thus far. It appears that the birds will cross the Urals into Europe soon. The timing and location of the latest reports indicate H5N1 is alive and well in southern Siberia and flying toward warmer climates to the west and south.(end of commentary)
It appears to be spreading into Europe quickly with the migrations.