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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's still putting your crosshairs on the innocent and pulling the trigger. It's still murder.

Not if it prevents far more murders. In such a case, refusing to pull the trigger is murder.

54 posted on 05/09/2005 4:53:33 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Zhangliqun; don-o; conservonator; livius; stevio; Campion; thoughtomator
It's still putting your crosshairs on the innocent and pulling the trigger. It's still murder.

Not if it prevents far more murders. In such a case, refusing to pull the trigger is murder.

No, refusing to kill an innocent person is not murder. If you are a man of faith, I tell you God has forbidden it. If you are a man who feels responsible for the future, I tell you this is not just the top of a slippery slope: it is the entrance ramp to a logical 4-lane superhighway of slaughter.

This kind of consequentialism can't be supported: because once you say "I may, without moral blame, deliberately kill an innocent person if I have a sufficiently good reason," then you have no moral argument against any deliberate shedding of innocent blood; all you have is a calculus about consequences which neither of you can control.

The calculus of consequences is impossible. Can I murder 3 to save three? Can I kill a homely twin to give his kidneys to his handsome brother? How about if I murder 4 to save three, if the 4 were relatively worthless? How about if I kill a bunch of Spanish people on commuter trains on the gamble that it might or might not get Spanish troops out of Iraq and save an equal or greater number?

Maybe -- a jihadist who agrees with you might say ---once the whole world submits to Islam, there will be no more war, no more crime; and thus any number of 9/11's is justified if it brings the West into submission.

Virtually all killing, private and public, legal and criminal, piecemeal and mass-murder variety, is done by somebody who thought he had a sufficiently good reason.

This isn't a moral code. It's moral chaos. At the end of all calculations, I think it would cost the human race more grief than we can possibly imagine.

57 posted on 05/09/2005 5:35:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (\\\The cafeteria closed. But the food's real good at the Bishop's Table. ///////)
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