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Evolution on trial again
ARS TECHNICA ^ | Sunday, May 08, 2005 | Jonathan M. Gitlin

Posted on 05/09/2005 8:22:16 AM PDT by anguish

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1 posted on 05/09/2005 8:22:19 AM PDT by anguish
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To: PatrickHenry

EvoPing. Nothing new about the Kansas lunacy, but at least some interesting info on the rapid speciation of cichlid fish.


2 posted on 05/09/2005 8:24:57 AM PDT by anguish (while science catches up.... mysticism!)
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To: anguish

"Yet despite the advances we have made in the field, there remains a certain intransigence towards accepting as unquestioned scientific fact the theory of evolution as it pertains to the development of humankind."

Gee, I didn't realize the theory of evolution had become "unquestioned scientific fact". In that case, never mind.


3 posted on 05/09/2005 8:30:05 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: anguish

Thanks for the ping. Not much news in this one, really. We've had a few recent threads on the Kansas situation. If nothing else turns up this morning, I'll ping the list.


4 posted on 05/09/2005 8:31:19 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: anguish

Oh, geesh. You guys haven't resolved this by now?


5 posted on 05/09/2005 8:31:20 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: anguish
a certain intransigence towards accepting as unquestioned scientific fact

Yes, and in Galileo's day it was unquestioned scientific fact that the sun has no spots.

Darwinism has become what its adherents profess to loathe: quasi-religious dogma that is too brittle and weak to withstand critical challenge so it presses the prevailing authorities of the day to silence and forbid honest inquiry.

6 posted on 05/09/2005 8:31:26 AM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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To: anguish
In keeping with long-standing (at least since yesterday) tradition:


Cherokee Creation Story

Long ago, before there were any people, the world was young and water covered everything. The earth was a great island floating above the seas, suspended by four rawhide ropes representing the four sacred directions. It hung down from the crystal sky. There were no people, but the animals lived in a home above the rainbow. Needing space, they sent Water Beetle to search for room under the seas. Water Beetle dove deep and brought up mud that spread quickly, turning into land that was flat and too soft and wet for the animals to live on.

Grandfather Buzzard was sent to see if the land had hardened. When he flew over the earth, he found the mud had become solid; he flapped in for a closer look. The wind from his wings created valleys and mountains, and that is why the Cherokee territory has so many mountains today.

As the earth stiffened, the animals came down from the rainbow. It was still dark. They needed light, so they pulled the sun out from behind the rainbow, but it was too bright and hot. A solution was urgently needed. The shamans were told to place the sun higher in the sky. A path was made for it to travel--from east to west--so that all inhabitants could share in the light.

The plants were placed upon the earth. The Creator told the plants and animals to stay awake for seven days and seven nights. Only a few animals managed to do so, including the owls and mountain lions, and they were rewarded with the power to see in the dark. Among the plants, only the cedars, spruces, and pines remained awake. The Creator told these plants that they would keep their hair during the winter, while the other plants would lose theirs.

People were created last. The women were able to have babies every seven days. They reproduced so quickly that the Creator feared the world would soon become too crowded. So after that the women could have only one child per year, and it has been that way ever since.


7 posted on 05/09/2005 8:31:39 AM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: anguish
The ACLU's....NEA....union...plans to put the 10 Commandments in ACLU courts?

/sarcasm

8 posted on 05/09/2005 8:31:47 AM PDT by maestro
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To: Coyoteman

Dang, I hear flute music.


9 posted on 05/09/2005 8:32:32 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: Coyoteman

Argument by straw indian?


10 posted on 05/09/2005 8:33:27 AM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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To: anguish
but at least some interesting info on the rapid speciation of cichlid fish.

Ping us when it has evolved into a trout.

Or a darwinist.

11 posted on 05/09/2005 8:35:30 AM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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To: anguish

Prediction: This thread will reach over 400 replies, yet no minds will be changed on either side.

:)


12 posted on 05/09/2005 8:41:12 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: anguish

This article is much more balanced & realistic than the "conservative equals anti-science" crud that's been appearing in the mainstream liberal papers lately.


13 posted on 05/09/2005 8:42:37 AM PDT by shuckmaster
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To: FourtySeven

Yep.

But, we will see much vitriol, name-calling, and smugness.


14 posted on 05/09/2005 8:42:42 AM PDT by Skooz (Jesus Christ Set Me Free of Drug Addiction in 1985. Thank You, Lord.)
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To: anguish

The purpose of Creationism is to destroy the Conservative Movement.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 8:43:20 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Skooz

If you go back far enough, we and the chimps share a common ancestor. My father's father's father's father, going back maybe a half million generations - about five million years - was an ape."
Walter Cronkite, Ape Man: The Story of Human Evolution


16 posted on 05/09/2005 8:45:09 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: shuckmaster

To the best of my knowledge, All political parties hate science, because sooner or later, science contradicts something that politicians want to promote.


17 posted on 05/09/2005 8:47:18 AM PDT by js1138 (e unum pluribus)
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
EvolutionPing
A pro-evolution science list with over 270 names.
See the list's description at my freeper homepage.
Then FReepmail to be added or dropped.

18 posted on 05/09/2005 8:47:45 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: anguish
80 years later, scientists have identified DNA as the medium in which heredity is passed on, constructed a map of the entire human genome and can routinely manipulate genetic information in the laboratory.

The article conveniently fails to point out that it is at the biomolecular level that Neodarwinism’s fallacy is especially apparent. So much so, in fact, that Francis Crick postulated DNA must have been deposited on Earth by spaceships

This board of educators, most of whom are confessed skeptics of evolution, have invited the researchers from the Intelligent Design research group Discovery Institute in Seattle to present the case that thousands of scientists worldwide have in effect been lying to themselves and the whole world by claiming that evolution — rather than God — is responsible for the vast array of biodiversity we find on the planet Earth.

The author’s lack of objectivity is underscored by that statement alone. “Lying” denotes a conscious intent. Most scientists don’t have that. They go about their daily work in their respective fields, neither questioning nor trying to support the macroevolution orthodoxy. It’s simply irrelevant to what they do. Some, like biochemist Michael Behe, who as a Catholic accepted it for years, have taken a closer look at the emperor, and realized he is stark naked.
19 posted on 05/09/2005 8:48:07 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: Coyoteman
How about this one?
Materialist Creation Story

Once upon a time--a mere week ago in cosmic terms--mere matter, flotsam and jetsam from a collapsed and spent star, was rolling chaotically and randomly through spacetime and suddenly thought to itself, "I know! I will coalesce and evolve into life!"

And so it did.

Richard Dawkins will explain the magic of the gaps to you just as soon as he finishes his most current character assassination and ad hominem broadsides on religious believers who refuse to convert to his faith.

20 posted on 05/09/2005 8:48:09 AM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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