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To: SJackson; Darksheare; mhking; rdb3; Congressman Billybob; Killborn; sitetest; Dawsonville_Doc; ...

let us consider FR to be the internet equivalent to a private club.
there is a Proprietor: Jim Robinson
there is a Property Manager: John Robinson
there is Staff: The Almighty Mods
there are Paying Members: those of us who contribute money during FReepathons and/or monthly, as well as have signed up with a distinct User Account
there are Members: those of us who have signed up with a distinct User Account, but do not contribute money

As with a real-world property, the Proprietor sets the rules of the Club. His Manager and Staff administer the rules and maintain the Club property. Paying Members fund the Club. All members make use of Club facilities under the established Club Rules - by which all of us have contractually agreed to abide.

One of those Club Rules is displayed each and every time any member goes through the process of posting a message on a thread:
"Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts."
No member can claim to be ignorant of this part of the Club Rules.

One who violates these rules can be summarily ejected from the website, just as any Club Member can be tossed out of a real-world club for violating that club's terms of use/membership. This person's membership can be summarily revoked. This is a basic right of a Proprietor to defend the value and environment of his property.

If a banned member returns and repeats his offense, he is in the real-world guilty of criminal trespass. The internet scenario is an exact analogue. Trespass laws and penalties should apply.

This is not the end of it: The miscreant is also guilty of defacement of private property (vandalism) - since the grotesque posts remain on pinged recipient's "My Comments" pages, clearly they reside somewhere in the site code in some (at the moment) inextricable form. Removing them will require time and effort = money. These are Real Damages, and inflicting them is actionable.

Moreover, so long as these horrid posts remain ANYWHERE on the site's code, an opponent/detractor of FreeRepublic.com can in all literal fact claim that "those awful people at FR host virulent violence-mongering racist commentary." This renders FreeRepublic DEFAMED. Last I checked, this is also actionable.

So, why bow down in the House of Rimmon and make use of dangerous quasi-thoughtcrime laws, when one can penalize the asshat for what he has DONE?

I have pinged some concerned parties to this message, SJ, as well as one whom I hope has the IT savvy neede to help the Almighty Ones asshat-proof the site, and one whom I hope has the legal savvy to correct me where I err and/or expand along the line I have opened.


789 posted on 05/09/2005 4:22:38 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: King Prout

Good call. Under that scenario, we could definitely sanction the b@$t@rd.


792 posted on 05/09/2005 4:27:47 PM PDT by Killborn (Playing Russian Roulette with a Loaded Semi-Auto)
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To: King Prout
I'm not making excuses for myself, but I must admit that my patience and tolerance have been on short shrift lately on these boards.

I took this as a personal threat, and whomever this person is, come and get me. I'm a peaceful man, but I reserve the right to go from gentleman to gangsta in 0.02 nanoseconds.


794 posted on 05/09/2005 4:38:27 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: King Prout

Exactly.


796 posted on 05/09/2005 4:39:20 PM PDT by Darksheare (There is a flaw in my surreality, it's totally unrealistic.)
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To: MineralMan; Lazamataz

dang!
I should have pung y'all to #789 when I posted it


798 posted on 05/09/2005 4:40:29 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: King Prout
so long as these horrid posts remain ANYWHERE on the site's code, an opponent/detractor of FreeRepublic.com can in all literal fact claim that "those awful people at FR host virulent violence-mongering racist commentary."

Indeed.

809 posted on 05/09/2005 5:17:51 PM PDT by mhking ("Today, we're gonna do things the RIGHT way...")
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To: King Prout

Excellent analysis and review. Thanks.


834 posted on 05/09/2005 6:12:36 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: King Prout

Thanks for the comment. I don't think your comparision to a private club holds up, it's not, but as I noted I've no doubt FR has some legitimate civil issues here.


850 posted on 05/09/2005 7:52:18 PM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: King Prout

About all that can be done technically is to coordinate between FRs ISP and the offender's ISP and get them blocked at the ISP level. Usually this takes a bit of political savvy, but it has been done...


1,022 posted on 05/10/2005 7:50:37 AM PDT by Dawsonville_Doc
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