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To: Stoat

Sounds like applying for state government work in Ohio. White men need not apply.


2 posted on 05/08/2005 5:27:04 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: buccaneer81

I tried that in the late 70's- fresh out of college and was told I was of the wrong ethnicity and wrong gender. Went to Metzenbaum's office to complain and his secretary called me a liar. Walked out a devout conservative. So at least I have that going for me.


3 posted on 05/08/2005 5:32:37 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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Sounds like applying for state government work in Ohio. White men need not apply.

And for where I am as well, The People's Republic of Seattle.

I would imagine that if they are willing to actually admit publicly to a 3 year wait based upon race, the actual reality is most likely 5-6 years.  Many honorable people will have their careers ruined or severely damaged as a result of this, just as has happened here in the USA.

In Police and Fire services, this sort of thing not only occurs where new recruits are concerned, but at every step of the advancement ladder as well.

I am acquainted with police officers who simply gave up on taking the Sergeant's exam, because they spent seven or more years scoring among the very top candidates but were always passed over by an 'ethnic' candidate very, very far down the scoring list.

In public service positions such as those in the fire and police services, what this ends up causing is a severe, systemic disenchantment and plummeting morale, as well as a marked degradation of the quality of service rendered unto the public.

It makes organizations such as fire and police services far more expensive to run (bigger crews needed on fire calls, more backup needed for police) and also does a profound disservice to the taxpaying public.  When you,  as a hardworking, taxpaying citizen have some sort of trouble in your life and dial 911, you expect and deserve to have a dedicated police officer, who fills the doorway and carried a big shotgun come to your aid or a husky firefighter who can sling you over his broad shoulder and carry you to safety if the case warrants it.

What we get with this sort of 'affirmative action' garbage is a puny, inarticulate and comparatively 'slow' officer or firefighter who needs three assistants to do the job that he / she should have been able to do on his / her own.

People die because of this kind of garbage.

5 posted on 05/08/2005 6:12:29 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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