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Store's Floor Model Computer Loaded With Woman's Personal Info [Circuit City pleads ignorance]
Channel 7, ABC, Denver ^ | 11:02 am MDT May 7, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 05/08/2005 7:40:41 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

DENVER -- Imagine receiving a phone call from a stranger who knew your most private thoughts, knew what you looked like, knew your Social Security number, and even knew how much you make and where you work.

That happened to a Colorado woman after she took her computer to a major electronics store.

Her situation may be surprising given all the warnings about identity theft. But it's not surprising if you think for a moment about what's on your personal computer. There may be files about your income, business records, taxes, personal e-mails, dirty jokes, pictures and more.

It's all personal information unless you took your computer to a local retailer.

Susan, who asked us to conceal her true identity, did just that.

"I do want the general public to know this information. I want them to be aware that their privacy is not protected when they go into that store," said Susan.

That store is Circuit City.

Last June Susan went to the Circuit City store in Boulder to buy a new computer. She asked to have the files from her old computer saved to a disk.

"Let's just say I had many years of private writings, papers, personal information, pictures," Susan said.

Circuit City employees copied those private writings and papers onto a floor model computer then onto a disk. But they never removed Susan's personal files from that floor model computer. A few days later, that computer was sold.

"That evening I got a call from a strange man that I do not know who told me he purchased a desktop floor model computer which contained all of my personal information," Susan said.

When she finished talking with him, she said she felt "shock and fear and anger and disappointment that this happened."

"I can't even express the deep violation that I feel," she said.

Susan said it got worse. She said she questioned Circuit City and was told it was her fault for having those personal files on her computer and for expecting Circuit City to protect her privacy.

That's when she filed suit.

"I don't believe they have a solid legal argument here," said Howard Bernstein, Susan's attorney.

"They're coming up with some argument that it's not really your personal computer or you can't treat it as your personal computer if you bring it into our store. There is no expectation of privacy," Bernstein said.

7NEWS' hidden cameras found a change at Circuit City stores after Susan filed suit.

Employees now offer to transfer files for a fee and promise to protect your information.

"We don't download anything onto our computers whatsoever because it's a liability for you and it's also a liability for us as well," said a Circuit City employee.

That's a change from what Circuit City is telling Susan in court. The company says it had "no contractual duty" because the transfer was done at no charge and with no promises to protect her privacy.

Susan believes any reasonable customer expects a major computer seller would protect their privacy.

"According to them, I'm the only one who feels this way. I'm the only customer who has a problem with the fact that they don't have any respect for a customer's privacy," Susan said.

The two sides will settle their differences later this month.

Because of the pending litigation, officials with Circuit City denied our request for an on-camera interview.

In court documents, the company admits to a mistake with Susan's information but also believes they were under no legal obligation to protect her privacy since she did not specifically ask for protection.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Technical; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: circuitcity; computer; computerlist; privacy
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Lessons learned: Take care of your own business. Back up your info yourself. If you don't know how, do some research or have a trusted friend/relative do it. If you leave it to some $5.00/hr kid at Circuit City, your info will more than likely be screwed up or compromised. Not good.

As for Circuit City, their statement that your privacy means nothing to them tells me that I don't need to shop at their store. If I use my debit or credit card to buy a TV, I can't expect them to keep that info private. I won't do business with them for a stick of gum.

1 posted on 05/08/2005 7:40:42 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Ive been to circut city, they aren't kidding about the ignorance.


2 posted on 05/08/2005 7:43:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: cripplecreek

BUMP!


3 posted on 05/08/2005 7:46:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
By now, even the dimmest computer user should know that taking in a computer for repair or replacement has gotten people arrested.

Many are doing jail time.

Right here on FR, we must get two or three such stories a year. And that's just the highest profile cases. Tip of the iceberg.

4 posted on 05/08/2005 7:46:54 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The woman is to blame, not Circuit City. Enough excusing stupid women for their actions.


5 posted on 05/08/2005 7:50:00 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Stupid women? Having their info transfered to a new computer is a pretty standard request from customers. Using floor models to transfer is not. Circuit City screwed up.


6 posted on 05/08/2005 7:57:17 AM PDT by kenth
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To: cripplecreek

This is the store chain that fired its top commissioned salesmen because they were making too much money.


7 posted on 05/08/2005 7:57:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Circuit City employees copied those private writings and papers onto a floor model computer then onto a disk. But they never removed Susan's personal files from that floor model computer

OMG! I think it's reasonable to expect that Circuit City would take measures to see that such a thing would be avoided. They're not teenage hackers. They're a major retailer offering the service.

8 posted on 05/08/2005 7:58:00 AM PDT by GVnana
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They're not teenage hackers. They're a major retailer offering the service

Yeah, but the people doing the transfer are more than likely teenage hackers working for the major retailer.
9 posted on 05/08/2005 8:01:08 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: montag813
Enough excusing stupid women for their actions.

It sounds like Circuit City screwed up, not the woman, so it might well be "stupid men" who blew it.

10 posted on 05/08/2005 8:03:55 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: cripplecreek
Ive been to circuit city, they aren't kidding about the ignorance.

Many years ago I was shopping for my first computer. I didn't know much an had limited funds. I went into a Radio Shack and the sales person steered me over to the computer that they were currently promoting.

I asked the sales person what sort of processor the computer had. He promptly told me that the computer had 40 megs of hard drive, (this was obviously many years ago). I told him that the hard drive capacity was going to be my second question but I still wanted to know what sort of processor the computer had.

The sales person hemmed and hawed for a few moments and then admitted he didn't understand my question. I had to spell it out for him. "Is this computer a 286, 386, or a 486?" I asked.

He brightened up and told me that it was a 286. I thanked him and left the store. Computer newbie that I was I still knew more than the people in the store. I eventually bought a 386DX. And, although I haven't used it in years I am certain that it still works.
11 posted on 05/08/2005 8:03:56 AM PDT by redheadtoo
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I was happy the last time I went to our local Digilinks. All the former college kids have been replaced with adults who were polite, informative, and honest.

One of the guys working there told me that they were all former factory workers who went back to school when their shops closed.

The guy who replaced a hard drive for me showed me how to do it and gave me the old one too.


12 posted on 05/08/2005 8:04:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: montag813

No, she wasn't stupid. She made a request as part of her purchase and the store complied. She provided them with the equipment and her payment, and that completed her part of the transaction.

The transferring of the files from the old pc and the destruction / disposal of the files were the responsibility of circuit city. They did the first part but not the last.

IF you're trying to say "she should have done something" or "it's not circuit cities job" - she did something - hire circuit city - and they failed to do that job.


13 posted on 05/08/2005 8:05:52 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: montag813
I would put the hit on both, but that's just me. Circuit City should make a reasonable attempt to protect privacy. If they don't give a crap about their customers, and they're not obligated to, it's a smart move if for no other reason than to avoid negative PR and lawsuits.

As for the woman, she needs to take responsibility to backup her data herself. If you can't figure out how much memory your info takes up and burn some CDs to back it up, you have no business owning or using a computer anyway. (I'm sure I'll get flamed for that statement by people whose wives don't know the difference between a CD drive and a cup holder, oh well. I also feel the same way about people at the airport. If you can't find and physically walk to your boarding gate, and have to be taken there on a cart, you are not ready for air travel.)

14 posted on 05/08/2005 8:05:57 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Proud infidel since 1970.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Lessons learned: Take care of your own business. Back up your info yourself.

You and I may be competent or have the time to do it, but it should be possible for consumers and businesses to hire services to migrate data from one machine to another or from one archival format to another. This is absolutely unprofessional behavior from Circuit City.

15 posted on 05/08/2005 8:08:19 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Well, it should be at least a $7.00 or $8.00 an hour kid.

Its actually pretty simple. Buy a Network cable and connect the two computers through their ethernet cards. Windows XP has a great file transfer utility that will transfer your old data to your new computer.


16 posted on 05/08/2005 8:08:46 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Buy an external hard drive and keep all you private what-nots on there.

External USB Hard Drives Click here...
17 posted on 05/08/2005 8:09:06 AM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Didn't mom tell you to never take your disks to town?


18 posted on 05/08/2005 8:11:16 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

---If you can't find and physically walk to your boarding gate, and have to be taken there on a cart, you are not ready for air travel.---

The handicapped don't get to fly?

I think the mistake CC made was to have a sales person using a floor computer to transfer data. This should always be done, for a fee, by a service person, whose equipment is not accessible to the public.


19 posted on 05/08/2005 8:13:04 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

>Back up your info yourself.<

Sometimes, when your computer is BROKE!!!!!!!!!!!, this can be difficult.


20 posted on 05/08/2005 8:15:37 AM PDT by G Larry (Promote Conservative Judges NOW!)
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