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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

How is registering anything good?
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Amen.


81 posted on 05/09/2005 1:47:32 PM PDT by lodwick (Integrity has no need of rules. Albert Camus)
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HOLY CRAP

Darksheare, are you an agent provocateur?

I have read the entire bill, and yes, I understand its implications.

PLEASE listen to us as we try to explain what it is doing. You seem to be deliberately mis-understanding. Please don't feel just because you may have mis-interpreted it in the beginning (that's ok!) that you have backed yourself into a corner and now must defend your position no matter how ridiculous it gets.


FACT: the term "firearm" in the bill refers to machineguns, silencers, "destructive devices", short barrel shotguns and rifles, and a class called AOW which is like pen guns and so forth.

FACT: A registry of the above "firearms" has existed since 1934. This bill creates no new registry and no new category.

FACT: If you possess ANY one of the above listed things right now and it is not in the registry, it is a felony. You will go to jail and you will pay a big fine.

FACT: Many veterans brought back machineguns and did not know or care to register them in the amnesty of 1968. They are now illegally possessed and cannot be sold on the open market.

FACT: No new machineguns have been added to the registry since May 1986.

FACT: This bill will allow veterans and their legal heirs to add these currently illegally possessed machineguns (or whatever) to the registry.

FACT: If they were registered and made legal, the guns sold on the open market would fetch anywhere from $5,000 - $30,000+ depending on the type of gun and condition.

FACT: This bill does not require you to register squat. If you have your granddad's bring back german machinegun in your basement and you wish to keep it unregistered that is UP TO YOU.

FACT: If you tried to register a gun not covered by the above definition of "firearm" (for example, the .22 squirrel rifle you mentioned), the ATF would laugh at you and return the paperwork. ONLY MGs, SILENCERS, SBRs, SBSs, DDs, and AOWs ARE IN THE REGISTRY!


I think every single one of us here agrees that we need to un-do many (all) of the firearms laws we have on the books right now, but needlessly lashing out at legislation that helps us, the good guys out, is counter-productive. The fact is that our rights were stolen from us gradually and that is how we must work to regain them. One small victory at a time.

Please Darksheare and everyone else who does not yet understand the implications of this bill, consider thoughtfully the FACTS I have posted here. if you have more questions, I or any body else would be more than happy to answer them for you, but please don't lash out, post ominous warnings or whatever.
Regards
Jim


82 posted on 05/09/2005 10:15:06 PM PDT by doktorno
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