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To: grania
The problem isn't the policy; the problem is the lack of common sense im its application.

In this case that may or may not be. But what you have here are two separate issues, and I think people are getting the two confused. The first issue regards the way in which a policy may or may not (the details are too sketchy to be sure) have been applied. The second regards the attitude of a minor toward those placed in authority over him.

Additionally, sad as it may seem, there are innumerable situations in life where an individual must submit to overbearing authority. In our democratic, majority-rules society, we daily are obliged to bow to laws that we find wrongheaded, stupid and dictatorially applied. In another thread on this topic a poster brought up the scenario of someone racing to a hospital to attend to a sick relative; surely, it was suggested, no one would object to such a flouting of the speed laws. Indeed, very few would, and it would be a cruel and hard society that could hold an individual to the letter of the traffic laws under such circumstances. On the other hand, one could hardly expect a police officer to know the difference between such a case and one in which the driver simply had a case of lead foot. If he signals the speeding motorist to pull over, the said motorist cannot simply give him the finger and drive on, secure in the belief that the righteousness of his cause will protect him. And if, having stopped, the driver discovers the officer to be, not an understanding person, but an overbearing jackass bent upon ticketing him for the infraction, the best that be done is to accept the ticket and complain about the officer's conduct to the appropriate authorities--not to assail the officer, either verbally or physically. Assuming that the motorist did actually assail the officer, he could not consequently claim that he was arrested for rushing to the hospital to see his ailing relative. And it would be poor defense to such a charge that the officer had no right to pull him over.

8 posted on 05/07/2005 9:18:59 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
30 years ago I would of been kicked out of school for what I did. An English teacher was screaming at a female student and pushing her against a wall. This girl was straight A student and Vice president of the Student Body ( i was President) I stepped in between them, I am a foot taller, and told him to stop, he pushed me and I slammed him against the chalk board which shut him up. He ran to the principal. There were plenty of witnesses.

After sitting in the office for hours the principal did his review. He came out to apologize. Which the teacher was forced to do too. he had to write letters of apology to our parents too. The idiot quit the next year.
17 posted on 05/07/2005 10:00:40 AM PDT by Quick Shot
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
And if, having stopped, the driver discovers the officer to be, not an understanding person, but an overbearing jackass bent upon ticketing him for the infraction, the best that be done is to accept the ticket and complain about the officer's conduct to the appropriate authorities--not to assail the officer, either verbally or physically. Assuming that the motorist did actually assail the officer, he could not consequently claim that he was arrested for rushing to the hospital to see his ailing relative. And it would be poor defense to such a charge that the officer had no right to pull him over.

And you seriously expect a teenager to have that nuanced view of how things work? If so, I guess you popped out in the delivery room already potty trained and seeking a job.

62 posted on 05/07/2005 2:43:32 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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