Yes! Your dream culture --
where everyone has a say
in everyone's life --
hasn't worked too well.
But I will hand it to you --
Socialists don't quit!
Posted on 05/07/2005 7:03:09 AM PDT by veronica
MIAMI - The family of a severely brain-damaged woman who died after her feeding tube was removed in March said Friday they still have not been told where her remains will be laid to rest.
Terri Schiavo's parents and siblings, who waged a lengthy court battle over her end-of-life wishes, said on Fox's "Hannity & Colmes" show that her husband is keeping her remains from them.
"They were supposed to tell us, and we still have not heard from ... Michael Schiavo where Terri's been laid," said Terri Schiavo's brother, Bobby Schindler. "Our family expected this. Michael has disobeyed court orders throughout the ordeal and continues to do so today."
Michael Schiavo is under court order to notify the Schindlers of his plans for a memorial service. He has had his wife cremated and has said her ashes would be buried at a family plot in Pennsylvania.
George Felos, Michael Schiavo's attorney, did not immediately return a call Friday night seeking comment.
Terri Schiavo, 41, died March 31 in a Pinellas Park hospice, 13 days after her feeding tube was removed by court order. She suffered brain damage in 1990 after a chemical imbalance caused her heart to stop.
She left no written instructions in the event she became disabled, and her husband said she never would have wanted to be kept alive in what court-appointed doctors called a persistent vegetative state with no hope of recovery.
The Schindlers, however, doubted she had any such end-of-life wishes. They maintained she would benefit from rehabilitation, despite most doctors saying her condition was irreversible
Greer couldn't be reached. He was being wined and dined by his Pinellas County campaign donors for flipping the bird at Congress.
Now that we actually want Felos to answer a question, the blabbermouthed ghoul is MIA. I wonder if he's hanging around the hospices and checkin' out the ladies.
I'm supposed to say what you want me to say? Just because you support murder? I don't think so!
"Oh and you say I chose to do the wrong thing by doing nothing. Just curious, but what did you do to save Terri? Write your congressman? Post some messages on an Internet board? Symbolically carry a cup of water past the police line? A mummers fart worth of good any of that did her. Terri and God await us all in the day of judgment"
As I have said before, the young, strong people of our movement did nothing to affirmatively act to rescue Terri. Our movement has been exposed as a paper tiger with no teeth or claws. A movement is not taken seriously unless it has a fighting component, much as the Irish Sinn Fein political party has the I.R.A. as its teeth. Our movement is a "talk, talk," movement. It has no bite. Thirteen years ago, people of color in Los Angeles, abused beyond measure by out of town police who treated them as an occupying army treats subject people, had the courage to rise up against those who were oppressing them. Over 50 of the fighters died, but they and their neighborhoods are treated much better now by the police. A lesson here? Sure there is. A bully won't take you seriously unless you punch him in the nose. We conservatives are being bullied constantly, yet we never seem to fight back.
Yes! Your dream culture --
where everyone has a say
in everyone's life --
hasn't worked too well.
But I will hand it to you --
Socialists don't quit!
"How many other innocent lives could have been lost if a shootout resulted?"
Probably none. The small town Pinellas cops would have folded like a house of cards when confronted by Florida State Police and/or national guard. No one makes a gallant last stand just so someone can be starved to death. There is no principle worth dying for there. Either way, it would have proved that we conservatives are not going to be pushed around anymore, just as Irish Catholics in Belfast and African-Americans in South Central LA proved they were not going to be abused anymore.
"I guess in this democratic nation the thing to do would be to write your representatives and urge them to change death legislation."
Truly a fool's errand.
"Being old is not a valid excuse for inaction in my opinion."
How many old men with canes and walkers are there "walking point" in Falluja? Keep trying though. You just might, one day, actually say something logical. :)
Well then I guess you can sit around and stew about Terri's death, since you have nothing productive to add to her cause. You can be an old cranky codger and gripe about how the next generation is ruining things. Just like your cranky old fart parents did too.
What a pathetic response. And a USSR flag? Apparently, you're one of those people that think everybody that doesn't agree with you must be a commie. Socialism doesn't have a maddog thing to do with what I wrote.
You went for the cheap, meaningless, nonsensical insult and didn't address at all the reality that Michael Schiavo (who demands others obey court orders but apparently doesn't feel like he has to) had to go public in order to kill Terri, so there's no reason why her parents shouldn't have gone public to try to save her life.
And here's a news flash, Einstein: In the USSR, as in all other Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist societies, 'everyone' didn't 'have a say in everyone [else's] life.' Ask any Chinese or Soviet or Southeast Asian expatriate. Educate yourself.
While it's a shame you can't seem to manage analytical thinking, there are benefits to being so simple-minded. All of the most famous morons have big smiles on their faces.
Veronica, I understand how you feel about Terri's mom but she had been through so very much she may have known she was at her breaking point and could not endurer seeing her daughter die without being able to help her. She knew her son and others would be there. She may just have not been strong enough to go on. Her husband had said earlier that she wasn't able to cope anymore. Please try not to judge her harshly. She has spent loving years at Terri's side.
Sorry I meant to address this to bushisforpeace not Veronica.
Dear sawdust, please do not think your storming days long over. You can still storm with the best of them. When you are weak God is strong. Please, please storm on, we need you. We need you because you are the weak thing of the world that God chooses to use to confound the wise. We need you because you have the seasoned vision that comes with age and affliction that knows what is important in life and knows that it is worth sacrificing for. Even if you are so weak you have to crawl it is you that God wants to use to glorify Himself. The excellency is of God not the old, weathered pot. May the LORD bless you and give you the understanding to know you are the one to lead the charge if you can just hear the trumpet call. Follow Him even when no one else does because somehow He will use what you do for Him and in His Name no matter how old and infirmed you might be.
"Just like your cranky old fart parents did too."
Tastefully put. I could expect no less from you! LOL
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If Michael had lived alone, not gone out seeing other women, and had attempted to care for Terri's things and pets, then it would be possible to believe that he loved her.
A man who loves his wife does not father and raise children by another woman and pledge to marry her, nor does he destroy his wife's jewelry and pets.
Terri's parents were willing to pay for Terri on their own; gastrostomic feeding is not terribly expensive. If Michael had the hospice announce that at 12:00pm some Friday they were going to put Terri on a park bench and have nothing more to do with her, and that any people who wanted her fed would have to take care of it themselves, that would probably have been morally justifiable. Even if nobody came to feed Terri and she died, the fault would not lie mainly on the hospice, but also shared among those who could have acted but did not.
But Michael et al. explicitly acted to prevent Terri from receiving care, even from people who would voluntarily pay for it out of their own money. So what does your argument above have to do with Terri's case?
The rules for food and water should actually be very simple: do not withhold food if such withholding will cause malnutrition which could be avoided by providing food; do not withhold water if such withholding will cause dehydration which could be avoided by providing water.
If someone's condition is such that--even if never given any more food or water--they'll die before they become malnourished or dehydrated, then it may be appropriate to withdraw food or water unless or until they become malnourished or dehydrated while still alive.
Really very simple.
ROFLMAO!!! Have you ever taken care of somebody 24/7??? It's going to cost alot. Believe me. And the Schiavo's couldn't handle it the first, what makes you think now that they're older they'd be able to do a better job?
ROFLMAO!!! Have you ever taken care of somebody 24/7??? It's going to cost alot. Believe me. And the Schiavo's couldn't handle it the first, what makes you think now that they're older they'd be able to do a better job?
Still ghoulishly trolling these threads?
You have no shame, Hildy.
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