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To: Nick Danger; Pharmboy
While there is obviously a great deal of tension in Microsoft's begrudging support of gays, the gay community doesn't seem to have any bigger endorsement than the one they continually get IBM, listed as #2 in this list of gay-friendly businesses.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4161255.stm

I'm surprised you didn't already know, as much as you constantly defend IBM on this forum, but they are not only the tech leader in gay employees, they actually specifically cater to them by placing targeted advertisements in gay magazines. Check out some of this stuff, including their own "out and proud" brochure:

http://home.earthlink.net/~eagleibm/Images/G3255371.pdf

http://www.adweek.com/aw/magazine/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1994428

http://www.gay.com/business/article.html?sernum=328

http://www.echelonmagazine.com/news_ibm_april_15_04.htm

http://fireisland.gaymonkey.com/article.cfm?section=9&id=763

http://members.aol.com/BeThLines/watershed.html

Once again, your blind hatred of Microsoft clouds your judgement beyond all hope of reason.
11 posted on 05/07/2005 5:10:23 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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To: Golden Eagle

IBM is pro-gay? That stinks. I've just submitted a job application to work for them. Now I will need to decline any offers I might get if what you've said is true. Otherwise I'd be a hipocrit.


13 posted on 05/07/2005 5:15:20 AM PDT by Lexinom (Seattle is to the unborn what Auschwitz was to the Jews)
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To: Golden Eagle

As a shareholder of both IBM and Microsoft, I personally only care about one thing---stock price...if there stance on the gay issue raises the price, fantastic, if it hurts the price, then I am upset.

Don't look to corporations to set the tone of the social culture of this country....it ain't their job and it shouldn't be.

You guys are starting to sound like a bunch of da*n liberals with all this whining about what businesses do. If they have to play the PC game to make money, then they better play it, otherwise noone will invest in them. If, on the other hand, it becomes more profitable not to cowtow to the PC crowd, they will do it...

But please, for the love of everything sacred---STOP THE WHINING!


16 posted on 05/07/2005 5:39:37 AM PDT by Tulane
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