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To: Tirian
Dr. Behe spoke in Ithaca this past week, and reiterated - by citing writings of prominent Darwinists themselves - that no one has yet demonstrated how any complex biochemical systems have "happened to develop" in the incremental stepwise manner that classical Darwinism requires.

The more I study this issue the more I come to belief that evolutionists who adhere to classical Darwinism are really kind of quaint. Kind of like flat earthers.

12 posted on 05/06/2005 7:53:11 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
The more I study this issue the more I come to belief that evolutionists who adhere to classical Darwinism are really kind of quaint. Kind of like flat earthers.

.... or retarded and to be pitied.
20 posted on 05/06/2005 8:05:53 PM PDT by demkicker (Support DeLay, the Hammer, and the filibuster ban on judicial nominations!)
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To: DouglasKC

"The more I study this issue the more I come to belief that evolutionists who adhere to classical Darwinism are really kind of quaint. Kind of like flat earthers."

And DNA is just one little part of the whole works. The requirements for dozens of enzymic reactions to start a given RNA/DNA replication, e.g. making new pieces of DNA, proteins and other biochemical structures with a fully functional living cell, is mind boggling. Everything must already be in place, in order for these processes to happen. If things don't work properly within the particular design critera for a given type cell, depends a lot on what kind of animal or plant in some cases, a particular thing would happen or not be a part of the over process, the cell would die, or at best go bad, disease resulting in the animal or plant.
And then spend a few years reading about all the very suspect views on how earth geology does not show a uniform strata as insisted by evolutionists, investigate the problems many scientist claim are wrong with all our major radiometric dating systems, e.g. get a reading of 1.2 million years on one sample and a hundred on another sample of same rock, picked up a few feet away from first etc..
The lists of things that go against evolution is so great it is truly a wonder that anyone would dare preach it as being a fact in at this late date. Of course little has changed from the late 60's to present. I get so tired of hearing the issue is between religion and science. That is a ploy to make it sound like evolution is supported by the total scientific obervations and learning curves in many of our branches of science, and that religion is religion and has not place in science. It has been going on for a long time.


24 posted on 05/06/2005 8:10:36 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: DouglasKC

"The more I study this issue the more I come to belief that evolutionists who adhere to classical Darwinism are really kind of quaint. Kind of like flat earthers."

I see your point. It is though they still believe the earth is at the center of the universe. When in reality they have placed man at its center.


31 posted on 05/06/2005 8:16:17 PM PDT by killermosquito (Hillary, go back to the little rock you crawled out from under!)
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To: DouglasKC
The more I study this issue the more I come to belief that evolutionists who adhere to classical Darwinism are really kind of quaint. Kind of like flat earthers.

Evolutionists commonly like to snear that those that believe in a God are the "Flat Earth" society members.

Rather it is the Evolutionist who still cling to the notion of "Spontaneous Generation" which was common in Darwins time.

How anyone can look at the unfathomable complexity of living things, and believe that it occured through the mechanisms proposed by Darwin, requires a suspension of reason, and blind FAITH.

135 posted on 05/06/2005 9:24:01 PM PDT by GSHastings
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To: DouglasKC
"The more I study this issue the more I come to belief that evolutionists who adhere to classical Darwinism are really kind of quaint. Kind of like flat earthers."

I think that's a little harsh. However, I do think that there is a group that more adequately describes them -- Alchemists.

When chemistry took root, it was natural to think that not only could you have limitted chemical reactions, there really are no limits to these reactions, and thus you can, with the right recipe, turn lead into gold. Likewise, the limitted amount of change that evolution has been responsible is likewise abstracted unnecessarily into being able to turn molecules to man.

288 posted on 05/07/2005 3:39:39 PM PDT by johnnyb_61820
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