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To: netmilsmom

no not at all let me try to explain

you made a remark that most Catholics are not in fact real Catholics because they don't follow all of the teachings of Vatican and/or Bible, fair enough

Osama Bin Laden and other Islamists say most Muslims aren't real Muslims because they are not following the teachings of Mohammad or the Koran which turns out to be a good thing
for the world in respect to the teachings which encourage the killing of infidels, as in the rest of us

however I guess my real problem is with fundamentalists who would impose their views on me, a non Catholic, for example but I realize now that here the Church is not imposing its views on non Catholics it is merely imposing its views on Catholics, or those that claim to be Catholic or better phrased, asking Catholics to follow the teachings of the Vatican even if that means contravening the secular law

hmmm, still not sure if that sit wells with me though, as a concept, and hey, I think gay marriage is a silly notion, I do not agree with it, I got no problem with civil unions,

but by telling your flock to disobey secular law are you not imposing your religion on me in a reverse kind of way by disrupting secular society

as far as the Presidency is concerned then, does that mean no person of a religious faith should ever be elected President if they are going to out their faith about the law they are sworn to uphold, by a Constitution that mandates separation of church and state,

is the world better if no person of religious faith never serves office, on the contrary.......

so where is the compromise?









44 posted on 05/06/2005 2:26:40 PM PDT by littlelilac
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To: littlelilac

ah but what I also meant to say, following on someone else who mentioned JFK, is that when the Catholic Church instructs its flock to disobey secular law, then don't be surprised when the Protestants in Northern Ireland for example don't want to be a minority in a Catholic country because they fear that Catholic not secular law will be imposed upon them, just as many Arabs don't want to live in Islamist theocracy, where the rights of the minority are not respected in the least......

hey if Israel can remain a Jewish state in a sea of Muslims...you can understand the Irish Protestant position...



48 posted on 05/06/2005 2:33:59 PM PDT by littlelilac
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To: littlelilac
"so where is the compromise? "

Apples and oranges. Judaism and Christianity have been the backbone of the greatest, most tolerant and peace-loving nation ever to rise. Have you ever seen Islam do this?

That there is a line that Christianity CANNOT be backed across gives it only the most superficial parallel with the Death Cult. Don't misttake that for an equality.
107 posted on 05/06/2005 3:43:02 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: littlelilac

>>Osama Bin Laden and other Islamists say most Muslims aren't real Muslims because they are not following the teachings of Mohammad or the Koran which turns out to be a good thing
for the world in respect to the teachings which encourage the killing of infidels, as in the rest of us<<

However, unlike Bin Laden, our Pope does not blow up people who do not follow Catholic Teachings.


152 posted on 05/06/2005 4:21:43 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Pope B16-Smacking down Heresy since 1981! God Bless him!)
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