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To: clee1
A student, while not bothering anyone or anything, decided NOT to give in to power-tripping "authority figures" and their senseless dictates.

I don't know how you worked things in your family, but my kids were told to be respectful of school authorities no matter how much they (or we) may have disagreed with them. It's part of the disciplinary process that leads to good citizenship and the ability to function successfully in the world. Kids who aren't imbued with the quality of respect generally turn into foul-mouthed, pie-throwing leftists.

13 posted on 05/06/2005 10:29:19 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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aI emailed the principal ( a female) and appealed to her as a mom and that the kid should have been given a break. As a mom of a son I know they can get POed at little things at that age let alone a mom in Iraq and no dad. The teacher should have lightened up on him and allowed him his few minutes. The soldiers can only call when they can call so he may not talk to her again for a long while. Given students doing all kinds of things in public schools these days this kid deserved a break which I told the Principal.


29 posted on 05/06/2005 10:36:55 AM PDT by LYSandra
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
There's respect for authority, and then there's rigid close-mindedness. This zero tolerance crap has got to stop! Teachers and administrators no longer have the wiggle room to "make the call"....they haf ze rulz, and ze rulz vill protect zem!! Exceptions are made all the time, only it's hush-hush...and usually involves a sport.

I hope you also taught your kids to think for themselves (that was not meant to be snarky or a judgment on your parenting style...just to head that little war off before it starts!:)

49 posted on 05/06/2005 10:49:13 AM PDT by blu (The Pope, the Gipper and the Iron Lady...now THAT'S a trifecta!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Sometimes teachers are really bad.

In 2nd grade, my son was going to a private Christian school. One day, I picked him up, and he had had a pee accident. He told me they can only go to the bathroom at recess and lunch, and he needed to go to the bathroom after lunch.

I told him to try to go to the bathroom at recess or lunch even if he didn't need to, and I told him to also ask his teacher if he ever needed to go to the bathroom.

Well, he had another accident at school. However, he asked th teacher if he could go, and she said no.

I told the teacher she should always let a 7 year old go to the bathroom. If there was a problem with the kid going to the bathroom too much, it should be brought to the attention of the parents. The child could have a medical problem like a urinary tract infection.

She still didn't let kids go to the bathroom.

I told my son that if he had to go, then to just go to the bathroom and I'd deal with the school afterwards.

I sent him a note.

I should have pulled my son from the school right then and there, but we finished the year. She was a horrible teacher. We switched to public school the next year, and we've had much better teachers there. (who'd of thunk that)


57 posted on 05/06/2005 10:54:36 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I certainly agree that in most cases, and for most reasons, school officials should be obeyed. To do otherwise is asking for anarchy.

However, a high school student on his lunchbreak is not hurting a thing by talking to his mom in Iraq, and he should well know it.

The teacher should have known it as well, and probably did, but the drive to obey policy and proceedure, disregarding good common sense, is strong among the small minds of tyrants and sycophants.

We free people fight tyranny, whenever and wherever we find it. The "rule" of obeying authority would not have applied here, in my family. We are Americans; not Germans, or Russians.


63 posted on 05/06/2005 10:56:51 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Kids who aren't imbued with the quality of respect generally turn into foul-mouthed, pie-throwing leftists. Concentration Camp guards instead?
67 posted on 05/06/2005 10:58:29 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I don't know how you worked things in your family, but my kids were told to be respectful of school authorities no matter how much they (or we) may have disagreed with them. It's part of the disciplinary process that leads to good citizenship and the ability to function successfully in the world. Kids who aren't imbued with the quality of respect generally turn into foul-mouthed, pie-throwing leftists.

If I was talking to my mother on my own time, and not disturbing anyone, and a teacher pulled the phone out of my hand, that would be the last time she used that hand.

If I have to worry that everytime I talk to my mother may be the last time I ever talk to her, no teacher is going to stop me, and if they did, I wouldn't be foul mouthed or throwing pies, I'd be using a baseball bat and bashing their skull in.

The kid should have beaten his teacher senseless for her conduct.

94 posted on 05/06/2005 11:17:30 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Kids who aren't imbued with the quality of respect generally turn into foul-mouthed, pie-throwing leftists.

And kids that blindly follow authority turn into lemmings.

Respect has to be earned. GOOD authority figures EARN respect, not simply demand it because they are a mid-level bureaucrat with a title.

181 posted on 05/06/2005 12:34:22 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Get in the ring!")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
It's part of the disciplinary process that leads to good citizenship and the ability to function successfully in the world.

Rules should not always be senselessly followed...or administered.

365 posted on 05/07/2005 12:19:29 AM PDT by BJungNan (Check out http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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