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Student Suspended for Call to Mom in Iraq
Newsday ^ | 05/06/05 | AP

Posted on 05/06/2005 10:15:07 AM PDT by Responsibility1st

COLUMBUS, Ga. -- A high school student was suspended for 10 days for refusing to end a mobile phone call with his mother, a soldier serving in Iraq, school officials said. The 10-day suspension was issued because Kevin Francois was "defiant and disorderly" and was imposed in lieu of an arrest, Spencer High School assistant principal Alfred Parham said. The confrontation Wednesday began after the 17-year-old junior got a call at lunchtime from his mother, Sgt. 1st Class Monique Bates, who left in January for a one-year tour with the 203rd Forward Support Battalion. Mobile phones are allowed on campus but may not be used during school hours. When a teacher told him to hang up, he refused. He said he told the teacher, "This is my mom in Iraq. I'm not about to hang up on my mom." Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office. "Kevin got defiant and disorderly," Parham said. "When a kid becomes out of control like that they can either be arrested or suspended for 10 days. Now being that his mother is in Iraq, we're not trying to cause her any undue hardship; he was suspended for 10 days."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anamericansoldier; discipline; education; educationnews; iraq; militaryfamilies; militarymothers; militarywomen; students; terrorwar; waronterror; wtcattacks; zerotolarence
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To: Heatseeker
If I was the teacher or administrator I would have made an exception in this case...

We see this type of story all the time. Unfortunately in today's public school system there is not room for common sense, compromise or, as you put it, "exceptions." The game is "one-size-fits-all" conformity.

If the teacher in question had the least bit of common sense, he/she would have known that it is not easy for a serviceman to make such a call at a time convenient to the recipient.

221 posted on 05/06/2005 1:05:24 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Heatseeker

Agreed, maybe detention if punishment is warranted, but I would cut hims some slack. In respect to his mother.


222 posted on 05/06/2005 1:07:11 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, who's bringing the chips?)
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To: rwfromkansas
"You do realize that mom may not get the chance to call until May 25 or something.

Forcing him off the phone was inexcusable."


Hear, hear. Deployed soldiers don't always get to choose when they may call. Furthermore, there is this central point: school employees are public servants -- through our taxes we hire them to educate our children. They are *not* guardians, and they have no right to prevent a parent from contacting their child at any time of day. They darned sure don't have any right to require an appointment or act as any form of "gatekeeper" who decides when a parent may contact their child. They are hired for one sole purpose, and that's it. There are far too many educators who think they are more than this, people hired for a single service, and the people at this school have exhibited this behavior.

If it was me, my kid would have been in Catholic school from day one, but that's just me. I swear, I went to a Catholic high school where it was all boys, the teachers were all men, many of them were ex-military (and military reserve), and they had more understanding and compassion in their little fingers than these people.

P.S. Hannity talking about this story NOW.
223 posted on 05/06/2005 1:08:52 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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To: Sterco

"YA know what beeler. If I were you I would not take my sentiments to the local watering hole. I am absolutely positive that you would find yourself on the losing side of a bar fight. Little corporal punishment ya know!!! Just a friendly little bit of advice from a fellow freeper."

My thoughts exactly.
May she come face to face with someone with an equally cold heart.


224 posted on 05/06/2005 1:09:04 PM PDT by fabriclady
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To: Responsibility1st

Seems to me a military mother would NEVER allow her child to use profanity and be disrespectful of teachers.


225 posted on 05/06/2005 1:09:52 PM PDT by RushCrush (Next thing you know Bill Clinton will be advocating celibacy!)
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To: Sterco

My policy is to use capital punishment to defend myself from senseless acts of violent thuggery, such as those you suggest I should watch out for. So I don't really see this as an issue. Plus, I'm not stupid enough to hang out at bars argue with a bunch of drunk strangers. However, such inanities don't really apply to FR, do they?


226 posted on 05/06/2005 1:10:25 PM PDT by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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To: fabriclady

My wife would take her to the ladies room and leave her there.


227 posted on 05/06/2005 1:11:57 PM PDT by Sterco
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To: fatnotlazy
Good afternoon.
"True...but this isn't the army.:)"

Truth is valid irregardless of the context.

Michael Frazier
228 posted on 05/06/2005 1:12:16 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: juggernaut
You have nothing to regret.

This issue has triggered multiple reposes, depending upon your life experiences.

If you are a teacher, or have a child that does not respect authority, then what this kid did was wrong.

If you have served in the military and understand what it is like to be stationed in remote regions of the world, then you have a different perspective.

So far, I see that the school is backing down. Let us compromise with this proposal:

1) 1 day suspension for the student for failure to show proper respect to his teachers.

2) Both the school teacher and principle should arrange a private telephone call with his mother in Iraq. The three of them can discuss their own feelings about this issue in private.

I am sure that the military can arrange the details to make this happen.

229 posted on 05/06/2005 1:13:03 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: rwfromkansas
The superintendent is offering to drop the suspension to 3 days instead of 10.
Tell him that is not good enough.

Dr. John A. Phillips, Jr.
706-649-0685
jphillips@mcsdga.net

I talked to a Mr. Kendall, he is willing to talk. Just to ease pressure on the school I am sure. He said the 3 day suspension ends Monday, the boy will be back in school Monday. I told him ending the suspension is not good enough. He knows they have stepped into a huge sink hole with no way out.
230 posted on 05/06/2005 1:13:07 PM PDT by fabriclady
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To: BlueNgold
We are PART of the law - the protectors and defenders of freedom. We are not above it, and we should not demand special priviliges. We SACRIFICE for the greater good - it's just part of the job.

Agreed, however you misconstrue my reference, I did not purport special privileges for military parents, I affirmed the authority of ANY parent over their children and that authority superceeds the (government) school.

I would note that the problems with cellphones and pagers in school grew out of the misuse of these items by students, and occasionally by parents, but the final authority is the parent, and if the parent's use doesn't rise to the level of abuse the child is protected, even then the responsibility is the parent's to face the consequences, not the child.

231 posted on 05/06/2005 1:13:48 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: fabriclady

not good enough.

Allow him to make-up anything missed during those days.

Expunge the record.

A detention would have been fine with me, but suspension is way over the line.


232 posted on 05/06/2005 1:14:47 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: PackardClipper

You seem to be suffering from a delusion in which you think military personnel can disregard lawful orders.

The child's mother, being a member of the Army, received orders to Iraq.

And you think that she shouldn't have gone.


233 posted on 05/06/2005 1:14:50 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Sterco

"My wife would take her to the ladies room and leave her there."

I just simply love it.


234 posted on 05/06/2005 1:15:47 PM PDT by fabriclady
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To: Hunble

I am in college studying to be a teacher, and I think the school went way too far.

I would have given the kid a detention and that would have ended it. He did disobey and caused a ruckus and should get something.

But, even one-day of suspension is too harsh IMO.


235 posted on 05/06/2005 1:16:33 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: SouthernFreebird
Your an embaressment to FR. That mother is fighting so you can sit your fat butt on a computer judging her from the safety of your home.

I would be sitting at the computer no matter what that woman was doing. The most important mission in her life is to raise the child God gave her. In that case, she truly is an "army of one". And she's AWOL.

What kind of "conservative" thinks it's OK for mothers to go off to war? Not women (which is wrong to begin with), but mothers? And the kid has already lost his Dad.

236 posted on 05/06/2005 1:17:43 PM PDT by PackardClipper
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To: rwfromkansas

Mr. Kendall, who claims he works in the Adm. building says he gets to make up all of his work. I think right now they would be willing to spit shine the boys shoes.


237 posted on 05/06/2005 1:17:57 PM PDT by fabriclady
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To: fabriclady

Bikers wife. Very pretty and petite but can keep me wary.


238 posted on 05/06/2005 1:18:28 PM PDT by Sterco
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To: fabriclady
He said the 3 day suspension ends Monday, the boy will be back in school Monday.

I consider that as acceptable, if he is in school on Monday morning.

The second half, is to help the mother in Iraq....

239 posted on 05/06/2005 1:18:31 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: beeler
If we didn't follow orders unworthy of being followed, must of us would be in jail. This kid needs to learn this now, or he's screwed for the rest of his life.

Nuremberg says your wrong, but that's another thing you didn't need to know.

240 posted on 05/06/2005 1:18:38 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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