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To: SaltyJoe
How Many Soviet troops were actually committed to any foreign battles during the Cold War (Afghanistan not included)?

Here's something interesting I found on a Russian site:

THE FORGOTTEN WAR

From Novaya Gazeta, Aug 3, 2004

THE "FORGOTTEN WAR" - a special by Novaya Gazeta, whose purpose is to assemble an anthology of memoirs from Soviet officers and soldiers who served in the 'local wars' of 20th century.

The editorial staff of Novaya Gazeta turns to the readers and visitors on this site with a request to send us their recollections, evidence and stories on this theme.

From the extract of the federal law concerning veterans quoted below, you can recall when and where Russian soldiers and officers participated in the wars. These events have been erased from the active memory of people born in this post-Soviet era, but they cannot be crossed out from the history of Russia, or from the living recollections of those Russian servicemen who carried out their international duty abroad.

QUOTE

Countries, Cities, Territories and periods of combat with the participation of citizens from the Russian Federation

Division I

Civil war: 23 February 1918 - October 1922
Soviet-Polish war: March - October of 1920
Combat operations in Spain: 1936 - 1939;
War with Finland: 30 November 1939 - 13 March 1940
World War II: 22 June 1941 - 9(11) May 1945
War with Japan: 9 August 1945 - 3 September 1945
Combat operations for the liquidation of banditism: October 1922 - June 1931
Combat operations in the region of Khasan lake: 29 July - 11 August 1938
Combat operations on the Khalkin-Gol river: 11 May - 16 September 1939
Combat operations during the reunification of the USSR, West Ukraine and West Belorus:17- 28 September 1939
Combat operations in China: August 1924 - July 1927, October - November of 1929, July 1937 - September 1944, July - September of 1945, March 1946 - April 1949, March - May 1950 (for personnel from PVO Air Defense), June 1950 - July 1953 (for the personnel of the military subdivisions, which participated in combat in North Korea from the territory of China)
Combat operations in North Korea: June 1950 - July 1953
Combat operations in Hungary: 1956
Combat operations in Cuba during the Caribbean crisis: July 1962 - November 1963
Combat operations on Damanskiy island: March of 1969
Combat operations in the region of Lake Zhalanashkol' : August of 1969
Combat operations in Tadzhikistan: since 1990;
Combat operations in the Chechen republic: since October of 1994.

Division III

Combat operations in Laos: January 1960 - December 1963, August 1964 - November 1968, November 1969 - December 1970
Combat operations in Vietnam: January 1961 - December 1974
Combat operations in Algeria: 1962-1964
Combat operations in the Yemen Arab republic: 18 October 1962 - 31 March 1963, November 1967 - December 1969
Combat operations in Ethiopia: 1962-1991
Combat operations in Egypt (the United Arab Republic): 18 October 1962 - 31 March 1963, June 1967 - 1968, March 1969 - July 1972, 5 October 1973 - 31 March 1974, June 1974 - February 1975 (for the personnel of ships and auxiliaries from the Black Sea and Pacific Ocean fleets, which participated in the mine clearing of the zone of the Suez Canal)
Combat operations in Syria: 5-13 June 1967, 1 March - 31 July 1970, 1 September - 30 November 1972, 6-24 October of 1973
Combat operations in Mozambique: 1967-1969, November 1975 - November 1979
Combat operations in Cambodia: April - December 1970
Combat operations in Bangladesh: 1972-1973 (for the personnel of ships and auxiliaries in the navy of the USSR)
Combat operations in Cyprus and in the adjacent sea area: July - August 1974
Combat operations in Angola: November 1975 - 1994
Combat operations during the Sino-Vietnamese conflict: 17 February - 18 March 1979
Combat operations in Afghanistan: April 1978 - 15 February 1989
Combat operations during the of the Iran-Iraq war: September 1980 - August 1988 (for the personnel of the USSR navy, which ensuresd navigation in the Persian Gulf)
Combat operations in Syria and Lebanon: June 1982
Combat operations in South Sudan: 1983-1994
Combat operations during the Yemeni - Saudi conflict: 1 December 1983 - 31 January 1984
Combat operations in the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen 1 - 31 January 1986
Combat operations in the territory of Libya and adjacent waters in the Bay of Sider: 23 March - 15 April 1986
Combat operations in Somalia: 1991-1994
Combat operations in Kuwait and adjacent waters of the Persian Gulf: 17 January - 28 February 1991


The editorial staff of New Gazeta awaits your stories.
Write us on this forum, or by electronic mail, if you have it, how you or someone you know fought in other countries as the soldiers or officers in the various branches of USSR armed forces.
By participating in this, you are helping your compatriots learn the truth about those events which, even after many years, the officials prefer not to speak about.

This message was edited by darin - Aug 3 2004, 12:11 PM

29 posted on 05/07/2005 9:58:25 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter
Thank you for this valuable information. I don't rebut your statement, but I'm interested in a finer detail not stated.

The USSR obviously deployed troops around the world. Is there information as to the number of troops? Considering the size of both USSR and the USA, I would be interested in comparing populations to the number of deployed troops.

When Soviet forces did go beyond their satellite states, what was the normal troop strength? I consider submariners in a different class of strategy (nuclear deterrence) from a unit more comparable to what Americans had and still has: Marine Expeditionary Unit, and Carrier Task Force.

I know that there were countless skirmishes between the Chinese and Soviet borders. But, when comparing the distance and size of America's level of commitment to Korea and/or Vietnam, how did the Soviets fair (exclude Cuba since Soviet involvement happened after Castro did most of the work). Were there MEU sized troops deployed to those "local wars" mentioned?

That a Russian site calls these "Forgotten" must imply that whatever Soviet involvement was invested in those foreign wars, the Soviet troops that suffered were largely abandoned. Since many nations have operated like this, this might be the reason why they accuse us, the U.S., of abandoning our own troops. Considering some the Vietnam Vets I've worked with, our nation shares a little of this blame (but probably not as much as other "empire builders").

The last detail I wonder about is the secrecy of troops deployments. How many operations are kept so much in the dark as to avoid a security breech, that exposing the operations gives evidence against the Soviet regimes true nature? Compare this to US Marines protecting American investments in foreign lands (like "Chesty" Puller fighting the Banana Wars), protecting investments from being "nationalized" by illegitimate powers with no democratically derived authority.

I don't consider America's diplomacy a record of perfection. Far from it, I wonder about America's actions comparable to competing factions around the world. All politics being put aside, the value of a young soldier's life, especially a patriot filled with such a willing spirit, is a precious value indeed and should never be ill-spent.
30 posted on 05/07/2005 11:10:29 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (May the Blessed Virgin guide mankind's effort to reaching a Just and lasting Peace.)
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