Posted on 05/06/2005 7:48:08 AM PDT by wagglebee
MIND YOUR OWN DEMOCRACY, SAYS PRESIDENT PUTIN, DEFENDING RUSSIA'S AND CRITICIZING AMERICA'S ELECTORAL COLLEGE SYSTEM, IN AN EXCLUSIVE "60 MINUTES" INTERVIEW SUNDAY ON CBS
A combative Vladimir Putin tells Mike Wallace he should question his own country's democratic ways before looking for problems with Russia's. The Russian president also says the U.S. shouldn't try to export its democracy, as it is trying to do in Iraq, in an exclusive interview to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday May 8 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
Wallace gets quite a reaction from Putin by asking him about a recent change the Russian leader made. Says Wallace, "There was a time when the regional governors were elected, correct? And all of the sudden, Putin says, 'No, no, no. I shall appoint the governors.' That's democracy? That's not democracy the way I understand it," says Wallace. "The principle of appointing regional leaders is not a sign of a lack of democracy," Putin retorts. "You're absolutely wrong. For instance, India is called the largest world democracy. But their governors have always been appointed by the central government and nobody disputes that India is not a democracy," says Putin.
The Russian leader then points to what he believes are drawbacks to America's own brand of democracy, including the Electoral College system. "In the United States, you first elect the electors and then they vote for the presidential candidates. In Russia, the president is elected through the direct vote of the whole population. That might be even more democratic," Putin says. "And you have other problems in your elections," he tells Wallace. "Four years ago your presidential election was decided by the court. The judicial system was brought into it. But we're not going to poke our noses into your democratic system because that's up to the American people."
Putin also believes the U.S. democratic system does not travel well and that is precisely why he was against the war in Iraq from the beginning. "Democracy cannot be exported to some other place. [Democracy] must be a product of internal domestic development in a society," says the Russian president.
But pulling out of Iraq is not an option, says Putin. "But if the U.S. were to leave and abandon Iraq without establishing the grounds for a united and sovereign country, that would definitely be a second mistake," he tells Wallace.
We are a democratic republic - we have a mixed system of direct elections by the people (demos) and representative govt. (republic). In some states we have democrativ vote by the people for propositions to be made into law - classic law making by direct democracy. So you are wrong there as well.
The electoral college exists to prevent a president elected by the great unwashed. The Founding Fathers did not trust the people.
Get your history right and go read the Federalist Papers.
For clarification purposes, the founding fathers are Geo. Washington, Thom. Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Ben Franklin-- not Karl Marx, Adam Weisaupt, Lennin, and Mao.
Your repeated conclusions without any support have clarified everything-- Putin needs to be a dicatator to save the Russians from themselves and the USA is the model for communism.
Still waiting or you to tell me what you found wrong with what Putin said..............
You need to reread the posts already up. We are the only ones still posting on this topic. Time to move on.
Power to the people.
Spoken like the crypto-communist you are? Power to the people's representatives - as our Founding Fathers would say.
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