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Abu Ghraib's message for the rank and file (Six lower-level enlistees have been punished )
csmonitor.com ^ | May 06, 2005 | Faye Bowers

Posted on 05/05/2005 5:07:44 PM PDT by Dubya

Six lower-level enlistees have been punished, though Lynndie England's fate is unsettled.

WASHINGTON - The trial that was supposed to close the book on a year of shame and condemnation of US military operations at Abu Ghraib didn't follow the script. And now the infamous photographic icon, Pfc. Lynndie England, is likely to be the focus of new military legal machinations for weeks, if not months.

But what the latest case did accomplish, even though it ended abruptly in a mistrial, was to refocus attention on who is facing courts-martial and who isn't. So far, six lower-level enlisted men and women have been punished by the military for inflicting humiliation and torture on Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. Ms. England's fate remains unknown at the moment. Another solider is scheduled to go on trial soon.

Although some 10 Pentagon investigations have highlighted "systemic" problems in the Iraqi operation, they found that higher-level officials issued no policies nor orders that could have led to the prisoner abuses that were aired around the world in a series of graphic photos. Only two senior officers with direct command responsibility for Abu Ghraib - Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski and Col. Thomas Pappas - have been reprimanded, but not prosecuted, for their oversight of the facility.

Lessons from the trials If any lesson can be drawn from the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse legal fallout so far, it may be this: The lowest-level soldier has the highest level of responsibility. The rank and file must clearly know right from wrong - both in terms of their own actions and orders from superiors.

"What the average soldier is going to take away from Abu Ghraib is a reinforcement of what he learned at boot camp - that he's responsible for his actions," says Mary Hall, a former military judge now in private practice. "These Abu Ghraib courts-martial are a blunt reminder to even the newest private that they have a duty to just say 'no.' "

The judge presiding over England's sentencing hearing declared a mistrial Wednesday afternoon after Pvt. Charles Graner, a former guard at Abu Ghraib who was previously convicted on charges related to the abuses, testified. In referring to the photo of England with an Iraqi prisoner tethered with a leash, Mr. Graner said England was asked to perform a legitimate function that he planned to use in future training.

That didn't fit with what England had said earlier in the hearing - that she knew what she was doing was wrong and that it had been done for the US soldiers' amusement. The judge said he therefore could not proceed with one of the charges - conspiracy - and declared a mistrial. But that doesn't mean either that the case is dropped or that it is likely to be retried. It just means that the defense and prosecution will most likely renegotiate a new plea deal.

"The charges are not dismissed," says Eugene Fidell, a Washington lawyer and president of the National Institute for Military Justice. "They simply have to impanel a new jury, and the process will crank up again."

But to others, Graner's testimony, along with other aspects of the case, raise more questions about higher chain-of-command responsibility in the case.

England had testified earlier in the trial that she posed for the photos in humiliating or brutal ways with the Iraqi prisoners because her superior told her to do so. After the judge admonished the defense lawyers, and they left with England for lunch, she returned with a changed story - that she knew what she did was wrong.

Moreover, a former high school psychologist who worked with England said that because of her physical disabilities, he wasn't sure she could in all cases distinguish right from wrong or refrain from peer pressure. The judge took issue with that testimony as well.

More probes coming? That may not provide new grounds for military courts-martials of superiors. But it may provide more grist for the Senate Armed Services Committee, which has held hearings and plans to hold more looking at the Pentagon's investigations into the abuses. It may also further embolden the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which has doggedly pursued the release of government documents relating to the abuses and has tried to hold higher-level officials responsible for creating the atmosphere in which they took place.

According to one retired Army general, there are clear-cut rules for accountability in the military.

"The lowest level would be the military guards and intelligence officers in this case. They are held accountable for their personal actions," says the retired general, who asks that his name not be used because he still works for the Pentagon.

"The second level is supervisory - those people can be held responsible for not only things they've done, but for things they've failed to do.

"The third level is ... the ones who might create an environment that encourages, permits, or tolerates these kinds of activities," he says.

So far, of course, only those on the lowest level have been charged. But it is clear other groups - including the Senate Armed Services Committee and the ACLU - have more questions about the environment created by higher-ups in Iraq. The Senate panel is planning at least one more round of hearings to study the Pentagon's internal investigations.

"We're continuing to press very aggressively on getting disclosure of documents under the Freedom of Information Act, and we are pursuing four civil lawsuits," says Lucas Guttentag, lead counsel in the lawsuits and director of the Immigrants' Rights Project at the ACLU.

Legal actions against top brass The ACLU filed four separate civil suits earlier this year, charging that four high-level officials should be held accountable for the abuses. Those include secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld; Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, who at the time of the Abu Ghraib scandal oversaw US military operations in Iraq; Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, who had direct responsibility for the military police at Abu Ghraib; and Col. Thomas Pappas, who oversaw military interrogations at Abu Ghraib. All four cases await pretrial hearings.

Meanwhile, the Army is rewriting its interrogations manual. The new rules of conduct are expected to ban the types of procedures that were used - and photographed - at Abu Ghraib. But many experts note that those practices were not permitted in the previous manual. In fact, during a congressional hearing last week, Sen. John McCain (R) of Arizona sparred with Stephen Cambone, undersecretary of Defense for intelligence, over the new manual.

"So we didn't do anything wrong, but we won't do it again," McCain said.


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1 posted on 05/05/2005 5:07:44 PM PDT by Dubya
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To: Dubya
"So we didn't do anything wrong, but we won't do it again," McCain said.
2 posted on 05/05/2005 5:09:18 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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None of the Army leadership knew what was going on. Horse feathers


3 posted on 05/05/2005 5:14:27 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya
Meanwhile, the Army is rewriting its interrogations manual. The new rules of conduct are expected to ban the types of procedures that were used - and photographed - at Abu Ghraib

The "procedures" in question in the England case had nothing to do with interrogation and everything to do with some morons (I can't call them soldiers) ignoring their responsibilities and mistreating prisoners for fun.

Those that keep insisting that she and her cohorts were following orders from intelligence officers have yet to explain how anybody would have trusted that group of losers with any critical task. Just because Ted Kennedy and Barbara Boxer suspect it doesn't make it so.

4 posted on 05/05/2005 5:20:07 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Dubya
A lot of non-attributed quotes and little content. Looks like he had to cut and paste this together quickly......

Must have been late for date at the local Burger King.

5 posted on 05/05/2005 5:25:45 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Disregard my last, I somehow jumped from a Scott Ritter thread to this one.


6 posted on 05/05/2005 5:26:38 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Dubya
Wow, only the people responsible got punished. I blame violent tv and of course GWB.
7 posted on 05/05/2005 5:28:14 PM PDT by BallyBill
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To: Dubya
When will the put Gen Karpinski, excuse Col. karpinski in a room with a pistol and a bullet, so she can do the honorable thing, instead of blaming here subordinates.
8 posted on 05/05/2005 5:38:06 PM PDT by dts32041 (Two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence Grizzly bear and violate.)
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To: Dubya
I would suspect that Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski and Col. Thomas Pappas let it get to the picture taking, game playing stage where Sgt Garner et al could play out their own little sex fantacies. I very much doubt that Gen Sanchez had anything to do with that. I have no trouble with the fact that rough treatment in interrogation was used. However, we are better than what this made us appear and the Afghan theatre shows it.

All in all, it is a tragedy that the left has this to play with and denegrate the service of so many people. I feel as though my grandchildren will be hearing about this from their socialist teachers twenty years from now. The way my daughter heard a warped and false version of Vietnam.

9 posted on 05/05/2005 5:44:10 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Dubya

God, how I long to hear someone in authority say, "Hey, when we start sawing their heads off, you can get back to me then, savvy??"


10 posted on 05/05/2005 5:44:44 PM PDT by Charlotte Corday (Freedom’s like ice-cream—can’t go wrong with it.)
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To: Dubya

Enlisted go to jail, officers get slapped on the wrist. Standard Army result.


11 posted on 05/05/2005 6:55:48 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Dubya

Graner is a lying sack of sh!t. His purpose is to punish his sub normal IQ girl friend and assist the media in their witch hunt to blame the command structure for his criminal acts done for personal sadistic pleasure.

He's a sociopath that got caught and he wants to take as many of his playmates and superiors down with him as he can.


12 posted on 05/05/2005 7:55:41 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: Dubya
But to others, Graner's testimony, along with other aspects of the case, raise more questions about higher chain-of-command responsibility in the case.

We don't want to look at the people in charge. Just give a few years in prison (10 yrs for Graner) to the rank and file and sweep it under the rug.

All of this was happening and none of the leadership knew about it and none of them goes to prison.

Give me a break.

Rich people don't do time in prison only the poor.

Some changes will be made in 06 I think.

13 posted on 05/06/2005 8:03:02 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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