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Absent husband returns home ... as a eunuch
yahoo.com ^ | May 5, 2005 | Reuters

Posted on 05/05/2005 10:25:10 AM PDT by Jimmyclyde

Absent husband returns home ... as a eunuch Thu May 5, 8:53 AM ET

An Indian man who left his wife and two young children two years ago shocked his family when he returned home as an eunuch, wearing garish red lipstick, the Asian Age newspaper said Thursday.

After a fight with his wife, the jobless Nabiullah left his family in Hathipur town in the northern state of Uttar Pradesh in the summer of 2003 to look for work, the paper reported.

During his absence, he got himself castrated and became a eunuch, earning money by singing and dancing, a common form of employment among India's ostracized community of eunuchs.

"I was always fond of singing and dancing, but felt suffocated in my body as a man," Nabiullah was quoted as saying.

His wife, Shama Parveen, fainted when he returned home late last month and now wants a divorce.

"I cannot live with this eunuch and subject myself and my children to social ridicule," she was quoted as saying.


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To: Constitution Day

Never lost his head even when giving h***


61 posted on 05/05/2005 2:16:18 PM PDT by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: cherokee1
Well, I like your thinkin'---does a Chinaman have the same operation everytime an Indian does? I need help w/the math. Could we march ém both into the sea four abreast and run out of them about the same time

My my, what a racist post. Go back to your reservation, Cherokee, and back to your booze. And wait for my tax payer funded grant to support your pathetic existence.

62 posted on 05/05/2005 2:26:23 PM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: razoroccam

So where do you GET OFF assuming I'm a drunk? Unlike the light weight east Indian guy I still have a complete, fully functional package. And I reserve the right to heap Krap on him, his gov't and his whole half-backward country. Nothing racist ABOUT that. Our nation's enemies and competitors who do us damage do not earn the highest level of my respect.
If there's a racist in the room it might be the one who assumes a guy with an North American Indian nickname drinks too much---and on FEDERAL money? check your mirror.


63 posted on 05/05/2005 4:27:34 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Jimmyclyde

I guess Apoo can't say "come" again. . .now can he.

;-)


64 posted on 05/05/2005 5:03:38 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: cherokee1

Anyone who calls for all citizens of a country to be killed can only be stupid, racist, and drunk.
Guess you are all of the above.


65 posted on 05/06/2005 5:48:25 AM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: razoroccam

Your poor manners and lack or grasp of the discussion are only exceeded by your ignorance of history. It was a Chinaman who suggested a half century ago that the Chinese could march into the sea four at a time and they would never runout---and still defeat us in Korea. I didn't call for killing anyone---I simply asked for the math with respect to the hapless East Indian who ended his own family tree. None of that falls anywhere near defining rascist/rascism. I didn't mention anyone by race but YOU DID. The problem is entirely yours. Thanx for showing your flag's colors.


67 posted on 05/07/2005 9:49:30 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1
You pathetic liar. Here is what you said Could we march ém both into the sea four abreast and run out of them about the same time

Indicates a desire and intent. On an earlier post, you also said your comments reflected your low esteem of Indians. Not only are you stupid, racist, and drunk, but also a lousy liar.

68 posted on 05/07/2005 2:40:56 PM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: razoroccam

You're having trouble staying on the thread. Calling me names just doesn't do that. The story about Nutless Nabiullah must be hitting close to home but calling me names isn't going to improve his dance routine. The governments of both India and China have plainly stated they have population problems. China in particular has taken what I would call severe steps to limit growth and discussion of those methods, humorous and otherwise, is entirely legitimate. While the question of my stupidity or relative rascism is your opinion and you are free to form it the matter of drunkenness would be subject to empirical evidence and , unless you have some , need to shut up about it.


69 posted on 05/09/2005 10:06:19 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1

Making fun of Nabiullah was completed justified and fair game. I don't have a problem with that.

The government of China and India have stated that they have a population problem. I don't have a problem with that.

A Chinese said many years ago that even marching 4 Chinese into the sea at a time would not deplete the population of China. I don't have a problem with that.

What I do have a problem is with when you translate the sayings of a Chinese into an advocacy for the mass extermination of people from and of India. India's population is its problem, not yours.

You have clearly stated that you dislike India. That is your right. But when you combine that with the earlier stated position of advocating drowning Indians, that is advocating genocide.

Don't walk down Hitlers path. Bigoted people have caused enough problem on this planet.


70 posted on 05/09/2005 10:26:31 AM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: Jimmyclyde

Bump for later read.


71 posted on 05/09/2005 10:32:37 AM PDT by albee (A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what is going on.)
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To: razoroccam

It happens in seemingly odd or disconnected ways but India's population problem does, in fact, wind up effecting me and there fore is going to generate some flack from me. Comparisons to China are totally legitimate. Example: I buy a lot of hardware. In recent years some of my suppliers have had tools made in India work their way into inventory. The stuff is really poor quality---too bad to even send back---and simply not suitable for industrial work which is how it was represented. I have had to shut off my suppliers from supplying anything from there because dealing with it is just too counterproductive. I don't care why it's bad---I just know it's bad and while I don't have time to survey India's labor force I have the right to assume a portion of it is incompetent.
You are correct in that how they solve their problem is their business. But their "rights " end at my front door and I Absolutely reserve the right to comment on their condition because they DO EFFECT ME.


72 posted on 05/09/2005 11:04:42 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1

I don't follow the logic of population problem being connected to poor quality. Stuff made in lots of countries that don't have a population problem are of poor quality. And vice-versa. Carpets made in India and silk from China are still the best in the world.

Your grouse against poor quality stuff, irrespective of where it is made, is legitimate. And you have the right to (and in fact should) not buy poor quality stuff, irrespective of where it is made. That is why we are writing in Free Republic, because we believe that market forces should take care of such issues, not namby pamby feel-good policies.

But I draw a distinction between not having respect for the products of a country and advocating the demise of its citizens.


73 posted on 05/09/2005 12:54:19 PM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: razoroccam

Poor quality/excess population are clearly connected. One does not need to make a logic "jump ". If a manufacturer wants to make "low end " products he goes where there is excess labor/ unskilled labor and unemployment. The past half century contains countless examples of this force in practice. Skilled people, gainfully employed do not intentionally make junk ---they learn early that their best job insurance is turning out quality products---particularly w/respect to industrial products.

My point is currently exemplified by China which now has a serious unemployment problem----they've learned the hard way that working the low end has no future. While one can find poor work/junk almost anyplace I would challenge your notion that there are many underpopulated countries that turn it out as a matter of regular business. My discussion is limited to industrial production vice consumer or tourist goods and I just don't think you can cite an example of a small population that is a renowned source of junk.


74 posted on 05/10/2005 10:24:58 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1

China has a unemployment problem? And that justifies mass murder of Chinese and Indians? You are a gem of a bigot - Hitler would be proud of you. But also wrong. Read below.

Regarding your notion of low end products coming only from over-populated countries, heard of "Yugo" and "Trabant"? Lousy products coming from under-populated countries (certainly by European standards).

Lousy products come from countries that don't encourage free markets and competition. Has nothing to do with population. But I think you are too stupid to understand that.

Anyway, I'm done with you. I won't waste my time replying to anymore of your messages. .




Economic Expansion in China Causing a Labor Shortage, Jeff Neal
Tuesday May 10, 3:30 pm ET




It's hard to believe that a country with a population of more than 1 billion can experience a labor shortage, but the red hot Chinese economy is actually having a very difficult time finding workers. The problem appears to be two-fold in that the economy is growing so fast that the demand for labor is at an all-time high, and at the same time many Chinese no longer want to work long hours for dismal wages to make cheap consumer goods that, of course, are targeted for the export market.

According to the Chinese Labor Ministry, the worker shortage was almost 3 million workers in 2004 and is projected to be an even higher figure for 2005. Chinese economists assert that manufacturing companies that operate in there must start to realize that the days of a limitless supply of workers are over. Of course, the fallout of this tight labor market! , along with increased material and shipping costs, are that the very profitable export market could take a hit because these higher prices will likely be pushed on to their biggest customers-like the United States and the industrialized European economies, which will possibly dampen demand.

The huge American retailer Wal-Mart (WMT) could directly be impacted given that the company purchased about $17 billion worth of products from China in 2004. Company officials insist that so far they have been able to minimize the cost increases via negotiation and of course being able to leverage their immense volume. However, the company did reveal concern about managing further cost increases down the road.

Many people who closely follow the Chinese economy insist that this shortage is no real surprise and say it is part of China's economic maturity. Th! ey feel it really is a good thing and that all industrialized nations eventually have to deal with labor shortage issues. In fact, the labor shortage has given many Chinese migrant workers a lot more power in that now they are no longer afraid to make demands for higher wages and benefits.

Even though economists are not really surprised by this new labor shortage many companies that operate in China certainly have been caught off guard. The reason for such huge labor price surges is the many new emerging trends within China. First the agricultural economy in China has really taken off with the rising crop prices and the elimination of agricultural taxes by the Chinese government. The result of this prosperity is that many more farmers can now stay at home versus pursuing factory jobs in the cities. Farm incomes have increased 16 percent since 2003 making most rural workers conclude that minus any specialized technical skills it is far better to stay on the farm and work.

In addition with other rural areas becoming more developed! throughout China, rural workers do not have to travel far anymore to find work. Given the huge multi-nationals like General Motors (GM) that have built facilities in these rural areas and also offer better wages has definitely had a draining effect on factory workers in the major cities. The Chinese workers are much more knowledgeable and aware about these types of jobs now than ever before so they are choosing to ignore the inner city factory job to take on a higher paying rural job.

Going forward, these factors will only increase, not decrease, so the current labor shortage will probably be a fact of life for a long long time. This will force factories to eventually improve their facilities, benefits and wages, which will more than likely force many of them out of business. The successful factories that make the transition will do so my being able ! to raise productivity as better labor and factory conditions are final ly implemented.

Ironically, U.S. companies that operate factories in China are not experiencing a labor shortage since they pay decent or better wages. The ones that have really been impacted are the Chinese home grown factories that have been very slow in raising wages in part due to very small profit margins. However, the business landscape has definitely changed by virtue of China's phenomenal economic growth, creating a lack of workers willing to toil in these old-school facilities. Now it is up to these types of factories to learn to adapt to this new labor shortage or face going out of business.


75 posted on 05/10/2005 1:53:50 PM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: razoroccam

Say "Hi " to King Capon of Hathipur next time you see him and best wishes to you both.


76 posted on 05/10/2005 3:17:16 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Jimmyclyde

"earning money by singing and dancing, a common form of employment among India's ostracized community of eunuchs."

This is common and there's a community of eunuchs?


77 posted on 05/11/2005 8:18:52 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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