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To: Unam Sanctam
So why do I find myself rooting for the "religious right"?

I suppose it is because I am put off by self-righteousness, closed-mindedness, and contempt for democracy and pluralism--all of which characterize the opposition to the religious right.

IOW, the "religious-right" represents our best hope for true "freedom" -- as has been the case since the days of the Founding Fathers.

Funny, but to certain myopic, ignorant Freepers, the "religious-right (Taliban)" are forever their antagonists.

8 posted on 05/04/2005 9:51:54 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
theres a practical political consideration in this as well. Bush won reelection largely due to the massive turnout of Christian "values" voters. i'm sure it would be difficult to argue that.

If Repubs are weak on the "values" debate, lose the moral high ground on critical social issues, or give the appearance of having no clear moral differences with the hollywood crowd, this will be the obvious result :

Conservative Christians sit home and Repubs LOSE elections.

17 posted on 05/04/2005 10:04:44 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: F16Fighter
On threads like this one, the anti-"religious right" types will keep a low profile or won't show up at all. But you can find them on every Robertson/Falwell/Keyes thread ironically revealing their own self-righteousness, closed-mindedness, and hypocrisy.
75 posted on 05/05/2005 12:46:22 AM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: F16Fighter
There are a couple of things about this that trouble me:

I'm of the notion that with the exception of some of the better established notions of right and wrong the church should remain nuetral in politics and the law. For example, I don't care if gays get "married". It's a joke but so what. I do care if the church sanctifies it or performs the ceremony. There is secular marriage (justice of the peace) and christian marriage (before a minister, priest or other church leader recognized by the state to perform such marriages). In addition, I don't care to see 2nd marraiges performed by a minister as most of these are cases of adultry anyway.

I've always believed that if the church was tending to business, they would be enticing more people to become of the faith rather than becoming all things to all people and polluting the christian faith pool. Should that happen, all these crazy laws would be unneeded. More people would be leading lives of faith and the remaining idiots, well will be idiots.

But as it is, the church has lost it's direction. No longer are they safe havens for fellowhship, learning, explaining, nurturing, discipling and other christian functions. Out of marriage births are at an alarming rate among the churched. Divorce among evangelicals rivals that of the secular world. Honesty in business dealings is something long forgot about. It used to be you could get good workmanship at a fair price with a christian businessman. That's no longer the case. A joke among the seculars in our town is not to business with the those listed in the Christian blue pages as they are bigger shysters than the secular business folks.

The other joke among seculars is if you want some sexual action, go the the mega churches singles gatherings. The more evangelic the better. In our town, many churches Weds night singles group is known among the divorced men as the Wed night meat market. It's easier to score there than at the bars. Sad. Why should it be easy to score sexually with christian women meeting at a christian setting than a secular woman in a secular setting? That's why I say the church has lost it's voice of leadership among the faithful.

When the chruch can restore

85 posted on 05/05/2005 7:19:33 AM PDT by joesbucks
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