oh you must have missed that post. i gave you that and amended. remember, setting fires, building bombs, etc. things that harm others aren't about your personal freedom but of course, you knew what i meant. i gave it to you anyway. i remain opposed to the government meddling in my personal affairs that harm no one. that is because i am a conservative.
OK, I see your point of view. It took me a while, however thats just the way I am.
I'm conservative too, however I would never argue the laws of the land once they are in place, however I would at times fight to change laws if I deem them invalid. After all, if I decide to give my Husky a fur cut with the power mower, run someone off the road because I feel they are infringing on my personal rights by being in my way, or decide to do yard work in the nude to the neighbors objections, I would think twice before doing such things because my "morality" tells me it is wrong!
I certainly would hate to impose my morality values on anyone else however.
If morality, even if it is religion driven, is lost in lawmaking then we all will be lost as a society.
A fundamental folly about libertarianism is their failure to understand that in order to have a 1900 state, you have to have a 1900 culture. You can only have a small government in a society with strict cultural rules about right and wrong and where disgrace and ostracism are feared punishments. The stricter the society and culture the less government you need. Libertarianism can only work in a Victorian society.
A depraved society with no moral laws needs lots and lots of government to protect people from themselves. Things like deferred gratification and impulse control are not innate to human beings. They have to be taught by the surrounding culture. And they cannot be taught by parents in the context of a decadent culture that glorifies promiscutity and hedonism. But they must be learned if you are going to become a civilized human being.
You commit a blunder common to libertarianism. You fail to comprehend that only a very, very civilized people can dispense with a big government.