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To: Sam the Sham

"A depraved society with no moral laws needs lots and lots of government to protect people from themselves. Things like deferred gratification and impulse control are not innate to human beings. They have to be taught by the surrounding culture. And they cannot be taught by parents in the context of a decadent culture that glorifies promiscutity and hedonism. But they must be learned if you are going to become a civilized human being."

Wow....just, wow. In one paragraph you advocate not only for bigger government, but for governmental control over parenting. That's just about one of the creepiest things I've ever read on FR.


142 posted on 05/06/2005 3:09:56 PM PDT by Chiapet (Chthulu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: Chiapet

"A depraved society with no moral laws needs lots and lots of government to protect people from themselves. Things like deferred gratification and impulse control are not innate to human beings. They have to be taught by the surrounding culture. And they cannot be taught by parents in the context of a decadent culture that glorifies promiscutity and hedonism. But they must be learned if you are going to become a civilized human being."

Wow....just, wow. In one paragraph you advocate not only for bigger government, but for governmental control over parenting. That's just about one of the creepiest things I've ever read on FR.

Fool, the size of the government is proportional to the public's expressed need for it. An uncivilized people will demand lots and lots of government to protect them from themselves. Who said anything about "government control over parenting" ? As families break down in a pagan society, as the sexual revolution creates more and more throwaway children won't the government inevitably become the parent of last resort to more and more children ? Either that or Victorian street urchins. As a society becomes more and more pagan, more and more secular, less and less able to convey values like deferred gratification and impulse control to its children, less and less able to domesticate adolescent male drives so you don't have a generation of yobs and gang bangers, people will inevitably demand that the government protect them from the growing barbarism of their world.

143 posted on 05/06/2005 3:22:24 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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