[Allosaurs_r_us]

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I am the cautious long-term-planning rational type of guy who wants a transparent accountable government that guarantees individual freedoms and provides for rule of law and provides for fair and vigorous capatilist competition.

 

What the heck is this supposed to mean? Caution, as in if you don't like "Under God" in our pledge of allegiance we should scrap it because you, or the ACLU, thinks it should be "under your belief system", so we don't step on anyone's toes? America is a country of doers. We don't sit on our hands. That is how Iraq got into the shape it did. If America relied on "caution" as you put it, half the world would be speaking German.

 

I think perhaps you need to read Jim's guidelines as to what this site is about. You will find your ideas are considerably more liberal than most of us here care to accept.

[billbears]

I am the cautious long-term-planning rational type of guy who wants a transparent accountable government that guarantees individual freedoms and provides for rule of law and provides for fair and vigorous capatilist competition

Actually that's a fair assessment of what the government of this nation of states should be. Accountable, transparent, and not up to involving itself in the internal affairs of the separate and sovereign states. Or involving itself in 'spreading democracy'. I fully realize neither of the major parties respect that nor want it, but it was the intent of the Framers for our political system to become one big football game of namecalling of choosing sides. Unfortunately that intent has not survived.

America is a country of doers. We don't sit on our hands. That is how Iraq got into the shape it did. If America relied on "caution" as you put it, half the world would be speaking German.

Actually that's very doubtful but keep up the hyperbole. As for a 'country of doers' I would suggest you go back and read Washington and Adams on interfering with the affairs of other nation states and what it leads to. Until that failure President Wilson, this practice, while at times occurring, was not commonplace on such a large and regular scale.

God willing there are still some conservatives that will be around, long after the interventionists have been chased off, that may be able to salvage what is left of the Republic

She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....

She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....