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To: MeanWestTexan
"It's just that many, many Christians (myself included) do not twist Genesis incorrectly like Creationists do to fit their preconceived world few."

Evolutionists view Genesis the following way:
Each day is a long period of time. However each of these periods have a morning and an evening and they are divided into night and day, governed by the Sun, moon, and stars, and consist of the first week in recorded history.
Plants (3rd day) cant live without the Sun so the Sun could not have been created on the 4th day when Genesis says it was.
Birds were created the 5th day and land animals on the 6th, but evolution states land animals before birds, so that order is wrong.
Evolution has woman begetting men, but Genesis has woman coming from man, so that cant be accurate.

So who is twisting Scripture here?

JM
463 posted on 05/05/2005 12:15:04 PM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: JohnnyM

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

Sounds like the Big Bang, but that is a different topic.

Day 1. God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

Importantly, note that there is no “sun” and no “moon” at this time. Hence, our concept of a 24 hour day is NOT APPLICABLE at this point in history. Indeed, it is not clear that the Earth-as-a-globe and universe as we know it today was formed yet — just light and dark (light and dark matter?) Indeed, I would encourage people to go look up the Hebrew word “etres” (“earth” — very flexible word) at this time.

Day 2. And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

Now the atmosphere is getting going in the way we understand. Probably a bit like Venus, quite nasty.

And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.

Sounds a bit like continental drift.

Day 3. Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

OK, plants first. Consistent with most theories of evolution.

Day 4. And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Hmm, now we have a Copernican solar system. The conflict between “plants first” and “sun second” is what got Galileo in trouble. Surely you're not a flat-Earther, too?

A likley answer is, of course, that “light” needed by the plants came on the first “day.” A theoretical physicist would probably tell you the light is coming from glowing plasma from an yet-to-be formed, but still darn hot and bright, Sun-to-be (which is consistent if the other stars are not around, too, as indicated by the lack of other visible stars).

Day 5. And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

Your argument is that some unified theory of evolution has land animals coming before birds. The false assumption there is IS THAT THERE IS NO UNIFIED THEORY of evolution. The details have, in no way, been worked out. I’ve seen flying fish. No reason to think that the leap to the air may have been made before crawling onto land.

Importantly also, note it says “winged bird.” Doesn’t talk about “winged mammals” such as bats, that most argue evolved from rodents.

Day 6, part I. And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

Now land animals. After fish. Consistent with most theories of evolution.

Day 6, part II. Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

Man after animals. Consistent with evolution.

Importantly, in no place here, does it get into the details, just that God did it.


474 posted on 05/05/2005 12:59:24 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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