Posted on 05/04/2005 12:32:23 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
You believe Alan Greenspan is ... NAH!!!
"DNA evidence, if available, is very good for clearing up confusing cases. "
Not to nit-pick, but didn't you just state that their was no DNA evidence on this thing?
And yes, mis-classification may be minor on the most part, but that would apply to *current* species, wouldn't it? We have no genetic evidence (I may have missed one of your links on this, forgive me if I did) of links between such ancient beasts.
As for the "seriousness" of a reclassification, I defer to my statement about it applying to *current* species. We have no clue how "off" we are on older than that.
Regards,
-Mac
It depends on the environment. "Jack of all trades, master of none" is not necessarily the best possible adaptation. Not all that long ago, there used to be bears in Africa. Not any more, though. Omnivorous generalists like bears don't do as well as specialists in such a highly competitive environment. They aren't as good at predation as superpredators like lions and leopards. They aren't as good at browsing and foraging as giraffes or elephants. And so they got pushed out.
I said they were imagining, not arguing.
Like darwin imaginersdon't argue.
They just call names at questioners.
Except this fine feathered fellow maintained it's abiltiy to run down prey while at the same time evolving grinders and not the gut to go along with them. If it was transitional, it was transitioning between being and not being.
And being human ex-lax means you mock others and don't back up your words with thoughts.
Dataman was wrong and rude if the above statements are true (and with a lack of defense on his part, I will defer to Dimensio's claims as correct) But you, sir, are an out-right jerk.
You cover entire forums with "witty" one-liners that attack other's ideas, and make no contributions of your own.
It's about time they're enforcing the law against being an unrepentant, fraudulent dumbass.
I don't recall. DNA from creatures that old must be rare indeed, if any still exists. The Nature article (at post 22) says they "uncovered a skull, pelvis and limb bones ... ." That's probably enough for an expert to make a good classification. If more turn up, we'll learn if this initial classification is correct. Just relax. These things can take a bit of time. The foundations of science don't rest on this one fossil.
By my definition "faith" is something accepted with no genuine evidence. As in "I accept on faith that the guy wasn't a murderer, because he told me he wasn't".
That's completly counter to evolution which has mountains of evidence. The new link pointed out to me today is merely one a great many. Yet, as the OJ Jury refused to consider DNA evidence, many creationists refuse to take that link as "evidence" for evolution and declare it "faith" instead.
I can't help but notice that some of the same folks bolstering evolution by mocking Christianity on this thread are the same folks who rail against us Christian barbarians when we pass laws banning "gay marriage." Odd coincidence!
I really haven't seen anyone railing against laws banning "gay marriage" around FR. But maybe I just don't frequent posts on the subject. I think gay marriage is damaging to civilization because like creatures evolve, I think cultures evolve as well. And our culture has demonstrated its success by being generally sexually straight and monogamous. I think that homosexuality is a "step backwards" in the evolution of civilization.
As for railing at Christians, It's hard for me as a Christian to not get mad at fellow Christians who are so obviously wrong about evolution. It makes me look stupid if I claim to be a Christian among scientifically literate non-Christians. Creationism is damaging to Christianity, because such non-Christians are never likely to take anything Christians say seriously and perhaps come to know God as a result.
Well, gosh, I think the same thing about you. But you knew that already.
[*Sigh*]
Touche'....you're making all the right enemies!
You mean reason and logic?
So, if the seminary had believed, as I do, that Genesis and evolution do not conflict. Then they would not have kicked Stalin out, he would have been a priest, and the soviet state might not have been the problem it was for 75 years.
God works in mysterious ways....
Since you're paying attention...why don't you answer the question Pathen ducks: What is your best single reason for believing matter can organize itself upward by mere chance?
Maybe God spoke to the people in charge of the seminary and told them He didn't like competition?
Or the ability to run from predators. Gazelles and ostriches are quite fast also, and when was the last time you saw one of them take down another animal? ;)
...while at the same time evolving grinders and not the gut to go along with them.
It happens. Pandas don't have the gut for being herbivores either - their digestion is horribly inefficient when compared to, say, cows. So they make up for it by eating enormous amounts of food, relative to their body size. Just because some adaptation would be advantageous, that doesn't mean you'll develop it - it's all in the luck of the draw.
Kind of like crystals organize themselves by chance?
Kind of like on a windless morning, where the surface of a lake organizes itself into a "mirror".
Kind of like snowflakes organize themselves into 6 sided thingies (I suppose that's redundant cause it's a crystal).
Kind of like planets and stars organize themselves into orbital planes and spheres, and gravity lights off the H2 releasing energy?
Kind of like light organizes itself into a rainbow in the rainstorm? (I suppose light isn't "matter", but hey, it's organized)
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