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To: lilylangtree

I agree.
we should be proud of them.
they found a way to humiliate and extract information from the muzzies that did not involve pliers, gasoline and fingernails.

Loreena bobbit got off easier than these soldiers do.

We have thousands of men raped in prison here in the USA every month... guards looking on and laughing. Freepers snickering about Democrats one day being in a cell with their new boyfriends named bubba and such....

these folks in the prison were terrorists.
I don't think lindie went far enough.
panties on the head is NOTHING. NOTHING.

and its disgusting that americans would be calling for her or any other soldiers head over such trivial bulcarp.


41 posted on 05/04/2005 12:29:44 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The Chinese and Saudis are our friends and allies!)
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To: Robert_Paulson2; Elpasser

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/2004/800-mp-bde.htm

The report ordered by commander Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez showed many things that were not okay. Screening processes were grossly inadequete and huge amounts of civilians acused of no crime were kept there. Nothing these "soldiers" did was part of their job. The pictures they took sullied the reputation of the US Army and help fuel dissent against the Coalition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_prisoner_abuse

Taguba's 53-page report, classified "Secret" and dated April 4, 2004, concluded that U.S. soldiers had committed "egregious acts and grave breaches of international law" at Abu Ghraib. [1] (http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/reports/2004/800-mp-bde.htm) Taguba found that between October and December 2003 there were numerous instances of "sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses" of prisoners. In violation of Army regulations, intelligence officers asked military police to "loosen up" inmates before questioning. The report estimates that 60% of the prisoners at the site were "not a threat to society" and that the screening process was so inadequate that innocent civilians were often detained indefinitely. Guards invented their own rules and supervisors approved of their actions. Personnel lost track of prisoners, did not count their prisoners, and kept no records regarding dozens of escapes. The facility held too many inmates and supplied too few guards. Training of those on guard was insufficient, and superiors neglected to visit the facilities in person. Top military personnel disagreed on whether military police or military intelligence should be in charge. Prisoner treatment varied between shifts and between compounds.


A soldier is seen punching restrained prisonersTaguba cited numerous organizational and leadership failures at Abu Ghraib. Reservists tasked with guarding the prison population were inadequately trained, and Taguba faulted senior commanders for failing to address these deficiencies. Specifically, intelligence officers and members of one company, the 372nd Military Police Company, based in Cresaptown, Maryland, in charge of security, took part in the documented abuses.

Taguba's report cited numerous examples of inmate abuse, including:

Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet.
Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees.
Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing.
Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time.
Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear.
Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate while being photographed and videotaped.
Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them.
Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture.

A detainee forced to stand on boxesWriting "I am a Rapest" [sic] on the leg of a detainee alleged to have raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked.
Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture.
A male MP guard raping a female detainee.
Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees and MPs posing with cheerful looks.
Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees.
Threatening detainees with a loaded 9mm pistol.
Pouring cold water on naked detainees.
Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair.
Threatening male detainees with rape.
Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell.
Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.
Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting and severely injuring a detainee.


47 posted on 05/04/2005 12:40:20 PM PDT by kingsurfer
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To: Robert_Paulson2

You're stating my thoughts to a "t".


52 posted on 05/04/2005 1:02:11 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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