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"You used the examples before of Hiroshima and Dresden; they are COMPLETELY different.
Only in the minds of liberals."

No, only in the minds of people who don't have their heads up their asses. Hiroshima and Dresden were done for MILITARY reasons, with clear MILITARY objectives. The degenerates at this prison had ONE objective; to satisfy their depravity. There were no interactions. It was the same bestial behavior that happens in prisons around the world, with the same characters in charge. Graner had already gotten in trouble over here for prison brutality before going to Iraq. It was all about the kicks they could get.

"The only people who got a good laugh were depraved S.O.B.'s.
Well then you should be the only one rolling on the floor. "

No, the depraved S.O.B would be you, because you think this is all so funny.

"Instead of the normal military folks and families who think it's funny as hell too."

The average Military family does NOT think this was funny, only the sick, amoral ones like you. They may think it has been overblown (I agree; it was an isolated incident with almost no connection to anybody else in the military other than the perps.) Unlike you though, most military families understand the idea of military discipline and the concept of obligation to obey the rules of military engagement. Moral degenerates like Graner or Lynndie don't make the rules. Nor, thank God, do you.

"Wars are by nature of their execution immoral...the reason for going to war may be righteous, but the execution of a war plan ALWAYS kills innocents, displaces populations and accidently imprisons, tortures and interrogates the wrong folks at times... using means YOU panty waists won't approve of. EVER."

If you would get your head out of your ass for one minute you would find that at no point have I said that I am against the war, or that I even have a problem with torturing prisoners when necessary. There was no necessity here. They made no interrogations. It was strictly for the fun of the guards. We have rules in the Military; soldiers don't get to pick and choose which ones they can obey. When we start letting them get away with obeying the rules only when they wish, we will cease to have a military and will instead have a mob with weapons. Kinda like the terrorists we are fighting there.

Again, you think that war is by definition immoral. The reasons may be right but the execution is not, blah blah blah. What utter crap. If you believe an act to be immoral you are a moral traitor if you do not say something against it. This war is moral. The accidental killing of civilians in the course of fighting it is moral. Dropping the bomb on Hiroshima to save American and Japanese lives was moral. Sodomizing a prisoner of undetermined status with a flashlight is NOT moral. Oh, you conveniently keep forgetting to remember that charge, and the charge of rape against some guards. It was not just putting panties on their heads.

You said in a later post than the one to me that you suspect that all of us who actually are standing up for military discipline and against the moral depravity of a few lone guards are on the payroll of Soros. Yeah, sure. Your entire debating *style* has been ad hominen attacks. Anybody who disagrees with you is a liberal anti-military, anti-american lackey of Soros. You spit in the faces of military families with your fantasy that they share your amorality. Most Americans know that what these few soldiers did was wrong.

"They are college fratboy pranks at the very worst. You apparently never were invited to join a frat. And I can see why. "

Our soldiers are not college frat boys. Any college frat boy who did what happened with these guards would be spending time in jail if caught. And your marvelous ad hominen attack really furthered your case logically.

We can all see what makes you so mad about this case. YOU wish you were there so YOU could take part in all the *fun*. It's just the type of thing that gets you off. No need to worry, you can always look for work in prisons right here. They are always looking for people of low intelligence like you.

dresden was specifically carried out by the allies on civilian populations for non military objectives.

read it, and spout your hype to folks who don't remember or know.

tens of thousands of innocents were targetted in hiroshima and nagasaki as well.

nice try to rewrite history.
killing the enemies civilian populations by tens of thousands was what ended the war. it is also part and parcel of our national defense 'mutual assured destruction' policy wherein we have THEIR civilian populations targetted to this day, Russia, China and quite a few others.

War is hell pal.
get the petunias outt yer butt.

Our soldiers are not college frat boys.

actually many of them are.
shows what you know.
go back to the democratic underground troll, soros has your check waiting.

It was not just putting panties on their heads.

Until proven in a court of law, it is all unproven.
even the pictures.
The lady is innocent until then.
And I don't believe the other crap you liberals try to add in there to make it something YOU think americans will find horrific. Most of us don't find this 'horrific.'

War really doesn't reflect the kind of pollyanna 'morality' you want to imply here. Neither does finding an accused soldier guilty, before they are even tried.

stick that in your morality computer...
YOU find them guilty before trial. Morality my arse.
False morality is all you have. Go back to DU.

Of course, to liberals like yourself, our soldiers were all guilty before they even fired a shot in Iraq.

I find your hypocracy quite ridiculous.