[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for your reply!

The "evolution of one" makes perfect sense from a cosmological perspective. Though it seems "New Age," the crystal & meditation crowd probably understand this idea better than anyone. And yet there is nothing in Christian theology that would oppose something like this, in fact there are some theological hints that would lead one to believe that there is a lot more "life" to our universe than we realize.

So very true.

Again I stress that the article is not theologically based but certainly believers of various stripes might be encouraged by it.

What a New Ager or Eastern mystic might see as "collective consciousness" a Christian might see as the willful creature spoken of in Romans 8:19-23:

For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected [the same] in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.

Swenson's article is truly ideologically neutral.

[Ronzo]

Swenson's article is truly ideologically neutral.

Not to the militant evolutionist it isn't!!! :^)

You correct A-G, he's not making a case for/against creators or Darwin, just pointing out a few holes he's seen...

[orionblamblam]

> Swenson's article is truly ideologically neutral.

Sadly, it is biased against facts, reason and logic.

[betty boop]

For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.

Simply glorious, Alamo-Girl. We and the whole creation groan and travail together.... We do not stand "outside" of nature. And also it seems to me that nature isn't "here" to do our bidding to serve our own selfish purposes, either.

Thank you for your beautiful post!