[shhrubbery!]

Would it be different for you if the same jokes were made in the same room at the same event by a paid comedian, where the first lady's role would have been to simply laugh and blush?

Ya know, I think you're on to something with that statement.

I don't know if najida's being sarcastic. Gotta leave that to him/her.

Look, I hate to be sarcastic to you, HairOfTheDog. (You and I probably have a lot in common, too. Your ancestors were Norskies, right? and mine were Swedes. I like your description of yourself as sort of hobbit-y --I maybe fit that description a bit too.)

But some of your posts leave me flummoxed. E.g., I don't understand how you can keep flogging the idea that milking-the-horse is an "old" "farmer's" joke and that therefore it's somehow innocent and doesn't mean what "dirty-minded" people (like Michelle Malkin, I guess) take it to mean. That is just an absurd take, and MM disposes of it well.

(Btw, that's not the only aspect of the First Lady's performance I've posted about. So y'all can spare the "obsessed with male horse anatomy" tag.)

If you don't already understand the difference between actively promoting vulgar trash, and merely passively sitting there while others promote it in a situation that is beyond your control, then I can't explain it to you.

[HairOfTheDog]

I don't understand how you can keep flogging the idea that milking-the-horse is an "old" "farmer's" joke and that therefore it's somehow innocent and doesn't mean what "dirty-minded" people (like Michelle Malkin, I guess) take it to mean. That is just an absurd take, and MM disposes of it well.

I am not saying it doesn't have to have a possible double entendre, I'm saying that the absurdity of it should mean it isn't taken seriously, and adults can find it funny, without going to hell. Spelling it out is crass, letting people think it through and take it wherever their own mind takes it, is not. IMHO.

[HairOfTheDog]

If you don't already understand the difference between actively promoting vulgar trash, and merely passively sitting there while others promote it in a situation that is beyond your control, then I can't explain it to you.

OK - so now I see why you think it's different, but I wonder why you think it's better to be victimized by it, than it is to take the sting out of some of the jokes, by having them delivered by someone who clearly loves the president. We know people are going to tease him about the very things Mrs. Bush did, and having her do it makes him seem to be a man comfortable in his own skin, able to say, yeah, I am like that, and no, you can't hurt me by saying so.

[Wallace T.]

The self-styled "South Park Conservatives" will no doubt be pleased to know that the illustrious Al Gore shares their fear of "eeeeeeeeeeevil radical right fundamentalist Bible thumping Christians". Check out this post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1396490/posts.

[Sam Cree]

"vulgar trash"

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[najida]

I'm a her,
thankyouverymuch :)