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To: frgoff
ID is an hypothesis to address certain observed aspects of life that cannot be explained by evolution.

All ID has concerned itself with so far is to frantically assert with overreaching and spurious arguments that "aspects of life that cannot be explained by evolution" exist. That and a recycling of all the creationist mantras that don't argue for a young Earth. Actually, sometimes people like Wells slip up and include some of those, such as when he goes after radiometric dating. This attempted undoing of what we already know is about as far from a theoretical advance as you can get. It's pure sabotage of science.

You have so much wrong, I'm only going to hit the highlights. This sentence for instance:

Irreducible complexity is a serious hurdle to evolution, which, when reduced to its basics, is really nothing more than weighted probabilities at play.

A twofer! Two lies in one. Second one first. Evolution isn't just "Probabilities at play." If you don't know what evolution is, how do you know it's wrong? Why are there no good arguments from you people? Only the same dumb strawman parodies of evolution, no matter how often we correct you? Why can't anyone help you know what you're talking about?

As for irreducible complexity, it exists, yes. There are no barriers to it evolving. Behe didn't discover it. No ID-er did. A Nobel biologist named Muller discovered both that IC exists and that it evolves back in the 1940s. Behe's big contribution to science was to rediscover Muller's phenomenon without Muller's analysis of how it happens. Since Behe didn't understand how it happens, it was proof that "Goddidit!" But wait! Didn't you just say that that's not how ID works?

I don't have the patience to point out all the problems with your post. You'll just be back again dumb as a stump with the same load of bull anyway. And that's why the one true sentence you may have written is this:

Most ideologues in the evolutionary camp just dismiss IC with a wave of their hands and a heavy helping of scorn.

What you don't understand is that this scorn is deserved. ID-ers are doing nothing but harm, deliberately, while accounting themselves as morally superior.

387 posted on 05/03/2005 8:42:36 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: VadeRetro
A twofer! Two lies in one. Second one first. Evolution isn't just "Probabilities at play." If you don't know what evolution is, how do you know it's wrong?

If you don't realize that evolution is nothing but probabilities at play, you are the one who doesn't understand what it is.

I suggest you read the books the Blind Watchmaker and Climbing Mount Improbable (hint: the titles were chosen for a reason).

394 posted on 05/04/2005 4:21:14 AM PDT by frgoff
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