[Dimensio]

So? Who cares if it's enjoyable or not? If we are bent on surviving as a species, why should "enjoyment" play a part?

Because most animals, best we can tell, don't have the mental capability to comprehend a thought as complex as "surviving as a species is good", and the pleasure of sexual activity came about before we developed the mental ability to develop such thoughts.

Then why were the laws made in the first place? They are laws of Man after all.

Because Men wanted them. And for the reason of "why" men wanted them, you again go into psychology and brain science.

Because observation shows that everything has a cause. This would include "everything" itself.

And why assume that this cause is "higher"? What properties do you assume of this ultimate cause, and why?

And again, what has any of this to do with evolution? Are you trying to go off subject because you have no actual arguments against evolution?

[MacDorcha]

"Because most animals, best we can tell, don't have the mental capability to comprehend a thought as complex as "surviving as a species is good", and the pleasure of sexual activity came about before we developed the mental ability to develop such thoughts."

Then why do WE have it?

"And why assume that this cause is "higher"? What properties do you assume of this ultimate cause, and why?"

Properties that are not observable by conventional methods. (Hint, it's HIGHER than us. Metaphysically speaking)

I assume these properties are not observable (conventionally) because we have not yet observed them. What would you posit?

If contrary, why? What would lead one to believe in "nothing"?

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And again, what has any of this to do with evolution?

You missed the post after the one you responded to. Get back to me on that.

[narby]

Because most animals, best we can tell, don't have the mental capability to comprehend a thought as complex as "surviving as a species is good",

Actually, I don't think humans have such a drive to keep the species alive either.

Europe and Russia have a declining population, and perhaps Japan. And I think the US would be about at zero growth, except for the "border problem".

[MacDorcha]

post 268, if that helps.