[VRing]

"Under the Patriot Act, a search of persons or premises still requires a warrant issued by a judge."

Secret warrants, issued by secret judges, concerning secret material, served by secret LEOs, and if the subject of the warrant finds out, somehow, that they were served and doesn't keep it secret, automatic prison. That's the problem I have with the Unpatriot Act.

[Deb]

Garbage. Anyone who has problems with the Act should have to post the actual woodage they fear. That goes for you.

[Ramius]

Secret warrants, issued by secret judges, concerning secret material, served by secret LEOs, and if the subject of the warrant finds out, somehow, that they were served and doesn't keep it secret, automatic prison. That's the problem I have with the Unpatriot Act.

Well... If I believed any of that stuff, I'd have a problem with it too. But nothing there is really true.