Posted on 05/02/2005 9:54:22 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum
Republicans win right to challenge Wash. state election: Republicans have won a victory in their challenge to the election of Governor Gregoire. The judge says Republicans will be allowed to use "proportional analysis" to prove their case that illegal votes swayed the election.
Nice job to everyone who worked for this, good luck!
"Porportional Analysis" Call me old fashioned but I think actual votes should be counted, not some statistical analysis. Especially when this is so close. I don't think this would have flown with Freepers if Gore had tried something like this in FL (he even may have if I recall).
Judge veriies GOP has rights to look into democratic voting shennanigans!
"Uh oh, I'm not wearing any underwear" -- Washington Democratic Party doing impression of Dustin Hoffman's Rainman
We have different definitions for 'coarse'. Mine is less mixes, less averaged, less smooth, more raw. In that sense, precinct level is more raw.
But the issue may be moot nonetheless since the offsets the dems are claiming have reportedly come from properly registered voters. It would be hypocritical (no surprise there) for dems to disallow votes of properly registered voters whose ballots were verified out-of-sequence through no fault of their own.
On the other hand, felons in pro-Rossi counties that voted illegally could be disproportionately assigned at the county level versus the precinct level. The republicans had best get crackin at checking out these purported felon votes.
had Christine hung the drapes yet ?
this is just wonderful news ... go WA-GOP and soon-to-be Gov Rossi
Bump!
See post #124.
The breakdown of voting districts into finer gradations (yes precinct is finer than county in that sense) leads to more coarse data in smaller groups. The 'proportional assignment' is more coarse (= less smooth, less averaged, more raw) at the precinct level than at the county level.
Semantics aside (and the above are the proper statistical semantics) the issue comes to accuracy and what constitutes 'illegal' or improper ballot.
Excellent!
I respectfully disagree. We must fight them everywhere at every turnm at every opportunity. They must be pounded into submission.
I suspect MoveOn.org herded their student following to the university voting site. I would not be surprised to see those votes going overwhelmingly for Gregoire.
But it may be a moot issue. The votes were apparently verified later rather than before they were counted, hence they will likely be deemed proper and allowed to stand. That means they can't be proportionally assigned, hence the county versus precinct level assignment is unnecessary.
But then there are the purported felon vote offset in pro-Rossi counties.......Repubs better get crackin to check those out.
Not a strong case. As is the criminal party will win this case.
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I'm sorry-are you suggesting that the Republican Party is guilty of voter fraud?
Good news
Thanks for the pings
Now that's some weird logic for ya'. Let it go because "everyone knows it was a fraud". Oh really? Maybe everyone in your circle of friends - maybe. Statements like this really scare me. We should step up prosecution for these crimes or the dems will be emboldened to cheat even more. Most of the sheeple out there probably don't even know there was any controversy over this election and would never hear about it unless it gets overturned and makes some real news.
interesting point but I don't think they do. Even at that dems don't have a problem with corruption as long as their side wins.
It would be interesting to see if the college voters, voted twice, once absentee, once at college.
This poster makes some valid points. The democrat leftist operatives such as MoveOn.org have provided plenty of interviews whereby it is obvious to the most casual observer that they scoff at rules, procedures and law.
What this poster is perhaps referring to is the threat that these leftist operators could insert poison pills into elections by fabricating false ballots in republican strongholds and then claiming a proportional analysis will change the result. I am not the 1st to raise this as a red flag.
Think back to the 2000 primary which had alot of union democrats ordered to the republican primary to vote in the weaker nominee (McCain versus Bush). The aftermath had alot of states rewriting their primary election statutes to allow only party registered persons to vote in their party primaries. That battle still rages on in Washington State.
What is needed is a national campaign for vote reform to shore up safeguards for validating elections. This could include database crosschecks, voter id, voter reregistering and so on.
Hopefully Washington State will lead as a pathfinder to clean up a national systemic problem.
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