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Airbus didn't make proper presentation: Air-India:-
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Posted on 05/02/2005 7:18:11 AM PDT by wk4bush2004

Mumbai, May 2 : Air-India Monday sharpened its attack on Airbus, saying the European plane manufacturer didn't make a proper presentation for a $7-billion aircraft deal despite being given an opportunity.

While Airbus has charged the Air-India board with not giving it a "fair treatment" during the finalisation of the long-awaited plane deal that went to Boeing, Air-India termed the outburst as completely "malicious".

"They didn't make a proper presentation (before the Air-India board)," Air-India spokesperson Jitendra Bhargava told IANS.

"They wanted a complete evaluation of the negotiation process. This was not acceptable to us. Now, they have no business to question the process to finalise the contract," Bhargava said.

Airbus officials were not immediately available for comment.

The Air-India spokesperson said the airline had written to the Indian government to take up the matter with Airbus after it demanded a probe into the manner the plane purchase contract was awarded to Boeing.

"The issues raised by Airbus are completely malicious and baseless. The process of finalising the contract was absolutely fair and transparent," said Bhargava, adding that both Boeing and Airbus were given a chance to make presentations.

"If they are talking about any unfair treatment, they should clearly give evidence."

In the biggest deal in Indian aviation history, international carrier Air-India last month said it would buy 50 planes from US-based Boeing to expand services.

The decision was taken in favour of Boeing after detailed examination of the recommendations of the in-house techno-economic committee appointed for examining the bids.

Both Boeing and Airbus had been vying for the contract.

The purchase of aircraft by Air-India had not only been a matter of intense lobbying by the companies, even the US and European Union authorities had been wooing the Indian government.

Soon after losing the bid to Boeing, Airbus alleged it was not allowed to make a presentation about its planned mid-range A350 that is aimed at competing with Boeing's 787.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: airbus; boeing; india; skywars; trade
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"Now, they have no business to question the process to finalise the contract"

Go Air India!

Airbus is such a sore loser! Face it, Airbus, Boeing has the better planes. Your days of political begging and bribery are coming to an end.

1 posted on 05/02/2005 7:18:11 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: wk4bush2004

Ah, the French. Nothing like insulting a multi-billion dollar customer. Boeing is blessed by who they have for enemies.


2 posted on 05/02/2005 7:21:35 AM PDT by GungaLaGunga
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To: wk4bush2004

Why is it that Airbust reminds me of the dimocrats during the Florida recounts?


3 posted on 05/02/2005 7:21:37 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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Just wait till some obscure EU cvommission weighs in and declares Air India out of complinace and thus unable to land inside Europe. Freakin socialist crybabies


4 posted on 05/02/2005 7:23:33 AM PDT by CT CONSERVATIVE (Fight Crime: Shoot Back)
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To: wk4bush2004

Airbus--the "progressive" airplane of choice of Democrats everywhere!


5 posted on 05/02/2005 7:24:35 AM PDT by twntaipan (demonRATs: The true heirs of Eichman)
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To: CT CONSERVATIVE
Just wait till some obscure EU commission weighs in and declares Air India out of compliance and thus unable to land inside Europe.

It wouldn't come as a surprise. The threats the EU made against Boeing when they purchased McDonnell Douglas were totally insane.

6 posted on 05/02/2005 7:25:10 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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"Why is it that Airbust reminds me of the dimocrats during the Florida recounts?"

They're on the same side.


7 posted on 05/02/2005 7:28:26 AM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: wk4bush2004
Socialist EU still have a colonial mentality where they want to force other countries to accept their products.

Socialist EU will be dismantled in the next fifteen years.

8 posted on 05/02/2005 7:29:59 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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"Soon after losing the bid to Boeing, Airbus alleged it was not allowed to make a presentation about its planned mid-range A350 that is aimed at competing with Boeing's 787."

The 787 is currently under development, the A350 is still in the planning stage, why would any airline want to stake their future on what software companies call "vaporware"? Air India was smart not to let them present an aircraft that is currently only at the drawing board stage.

9 posted on 05/02/2005 7:30:29 AM PDT by Sthitch
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To: wk4bush2004

Oh whaaagh, Airbus. Get over yourselves and get crackin' on a better presentation next time!

Way to go Boeing!


10 posted on 05/02/2005 7:36:10 AM PDT by NASBWI
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To: wk4bush2004

I assume some graft connection didn't go off properly here, and now the 2 parties are fighting it out in public.


11 posted on 05/02/2005 7:42:23 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: wk4bush2004

"The decision was taken in favor of Boeing after detailed examination of the recommendations of the in-house techno-economic committee appointed for examining the bids."

Crybaby Airbus. This arrogance is typical of the socialistic superiority complex. We’ve all seen this a thousand times from our own left wing liberal democrats.

It's called economics stupid. Who the hell wants to make extra docking space, expand runways, build larger terminals and subject airports and passengers (already slowed down by extra security measures) to have to wait for 600-800 people to board and exit such a huge plane?

The Boeing doesn't need any special airport accommodations and can fly farther and more efficiently. Plus with its moderate size can load and exit much faster, meaning more flights due to less waiting. It also has

Can't fault India for doing what's in its best interests.


12 posted on 05/02/2005 7:43:59 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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I think Airbus uses "we are not american" as their major selling point.

In all seriousness, accomodating the customer requirements would only make sense. how does airbus make such a HUGE mistake?

It is almost like Airbus wants them to adopt an airbus designed process. (is the seller socialist? is the seller french? is the seller not american? did you bribe eu officials?)


13 posted on 05/02/2005 7:45:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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airbusux. panzy, eurofemme, socialist crybaby scumbag pussy rule-changing squirms.


14 posted on 05/02/2005 7:47:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: wk4bush2004

Please, this is so bogus. If the Indians were really into kissing US butt, would their airforce be stocked with the latest SOVIET hardware? I think not... They buy what they think is best for them.


15 posted on 05/02/2005 7:47:48 AM PDT by Paradox ("It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it."- Robert E. Lee)
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16 posted on 05/02/2005 7:53:43 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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To: GungaLaGunga

The real issue is that Airbus for some time has been relying on government subsidies and to discount their planes. This made sense for carriers who could buy Airbus products effectively below the cost of the planes. Boeing has sharpened its operation and gotten aggressive in sales efforts. Ultimately the EU business culture will find it hard to compete with a truly aggressive Boeing.


17 posted on 05/02/2005 7:57:15 AM PDT by An Old Marine
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Isn't this an "outsourcing " problem for India? And if so shouldn't they call JFing K?
18 posted on 05/02/2005 7:59:56 AM PDT by CT CONSERVATIVE (Fight Crime: Shoot Back)
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To: An Old Marine

It seems to be working. Boeing has 193 orders for the 787 so far with options for another 106 from its customers. This makes the 787 the fastest-ever selling Boeing airliner upon launch.

http://www.answers.com/topic/boeing-787


19 posted on 05/02/2005 8:07:32 AM PDT by Tempestuous
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To: wk4bush2004
Airbus must've reall PO'ed the airline...
This is the second or third piece on this subject since they accepted Boeing's bid.
20 posted on 05/02/2005 8:29:33 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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