[1john2 3and4]

I often think of these types of things in those precise terms (pendulum). At the risk of yanking the thread off into a different direction, are you two saying the same thing?

Comes back with a crash doesn't sound too pleasant for the culture that crashes. I'm thinking Rome, which experienced just such a collapse....
vs.

We can only hope and pray this happens. Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

[zip]

"decadent eras have been followed by religious eras"

We can only hope and pray this happens.

This is the context of what I hope will happen, not a crash but a religious era taking place of the current era.