Draft U.S. paper allows commanders to seek preemptive nuke strikes(N. Korea/Iran)

Kyodo News ^ | 05/01/05

[bitt]

see #22

[Mad Mammoth]

...Will Rogers famous maxim about "no man or his property is safe when the Congress is in session" (paraphrased).
That was Twain. If you didn't fear the necessary consequences of a weasely stupid, cowardly vote in Congress, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

No, I suspect we'll be having this discussion as long as I choose to deny you the last word. As for Rogers, his sentiments were nearly identical with Twain, when he said "This country has come to feel the same when Congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer"

You know, the same sort of feeling people get when faced with a Constitutional 'expert' ;)

Now moving right along here, the best defense is a good offense, and the Israelis have had no problem with preemptive strikes, and you can bet your ass that if they knew that Iran or Syria were preparing to lob a nuke in their direction, they would preempt them with their own nukes on Damascus and/or Tehran.
What you are talking about is tactics and strategy. Allow me to cite Clausewitz: "War is merely the continuation of policy by other means."

Tell you what, here's another quote by Will Rogers: "Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock."

I'll take Rogers over Clausewitz.

Then you didn't read what I wrote very carefully. I have no objection to your tactical preferences, as long as they are authorized by Congress. Both they and the public could use a dose of hard reality necessary to require passage. Such a choice tends to weed the weenies out of the house of the people.

In the interest of fairness, here's a quote from Twain:" Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."

We'll put you down on the side of idiots.

That means that all of your Constitutional contemplations will become moot.
If you read again what I wrote, rather than what you were predisposed to think it meant, you might note what I said above, "If the American people won't support the Congress in passing a contingency plan then we deserve what we get."

Here's a quote from the Mammoth Book of Wisdom: "If the American people put their faith in the Congress, they're liable to end up dead. Just ask Terri Schiavo."

Back to you Professor.

[pookie18]

Thanks...an oldie, but goodie which I'll rerun in Today's Toons 5/3/05.

[Carry_Okie]

Oh, I see we went and looked up a quote page!

What talent. Maybe you'll learn to apply it to debate one day, now that you don't have any excuses left.

[gogogodzilla]

Yep, most people don't realize that there are two types of missiles.

Ballistic and Cruise.

Ballistic missiles being the typical missile that we picture, with a rocket engine and the trajectory that goes upwards.

Cruise missiles usually have a jet engine and stubby wings. They fly at lower altitudes and act more like a plane.

[hershey]

Tick, tick, tick.....boom.

[KingofQue]

The problem with that is that the dictator becomes extremely rich and can cause more damage because he gets better technology usually supplied by countries soon to be the next victim. Selling or giving the technology to these dictators creates our own demise.
Total embargo by every country is required or those who do trade also get embargoed.

[KingofQue]

You are forgetting the War Powers Act.

[Carry_Okie]

You are forgetting the War Powers Act.

No, I'm not. Are you forgetting the furor over its Constitutionality when it was passed?

Congress cannot delegate its powers. What we need is an amendment, to which I am not opposed in principle.

[sheik yerbouty]

It was just little Kim's birthday. Airmail him the gift of Plutonium,"the gift that keeps on giving!"

[sheik yerbouty]

Kimmie has no future..

[JasonC]

Not might, will. And if they get nukes, we will attack them. And if they have more nukes, we will attack them with nukes. Get it through your head - they will not be allowed to have nukes. If we have to burn down half the world, we will burn down half the world, but we won't let them have nukes. Suck your thumb, roll up your Guardian, spin your spiel all you want - we won't let them have nukes, for love or money. Deal.

[Paul Ross]

Actually, for deterrence to work, the other side needs to really KNOW you mean business.

[CyberAnt]

Hmmmm? I guess I hadn't thought of it that way - but that's very logical. Thanks.

[Dark Glasses and Corncob Pipe]

Good point on Duck & Cover.

Another analogy,

When I tell folks I built my guest house out back stout because of tornadoes, they laugh...

But which is more likely, to get a direct hit from a tornado (250 mph winds), or merely moderately violent wind gusts (120 mph) winds from one passing nearby?

[happygrl]

Once again, you come through....thanks!

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