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To: hedgetrimmer
It also proves the point that the free traders promote socialism, not individual rights and personal freedom

More government control of the economy promotes free market capitalism and protects individual rights and freedoms??

I believe you believe that but I didn't study economics at Berkeley.

unless it is planning to do away with those rights and institute a type of collectivism.

Think about all the governments of the past century that practiced collectivism and name one that believed in free markets. Name one that protected individual rights at the expense of the collective.

Berkeley is a bad place for a conservative to study economics.

111 posted on 05/02/2005 8:20:13 AM PDT by Mase
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To: Mase
More government control of the economy promotes free market capitalism and protects individual rights and freedoms??

Actually, any American knows that when government preserves individual rights, it generally means less government.

But global socialists promoting free trade would prefer that Americans ignore that fact.

Think about all the governments of the past century that practiced collectivism and name one that believed in free markets.

There is no "free market" in this world today. Your insistence that "free trade" means "free markets" or has anything "free" about it is worthy of Joseph Goebbels. "if you tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth." What is free about using USAID, the USDA, the EPA, the department of Justice, the department of Labor, the Inter-American development bank and every other US taxpayer supported organization to establish "free trade" in foreign countries? What is free about a nanny government telling the American people, we are not going to preserve your rights, we are going to establish an unconstitutional global system to regulate trade for Americans. We are going to negotiate those deals with an unconstitutional representative called a "trade minister". We are going to keep much of our negotiations secret-- the press is never invited to report the G8 conferences and there is no instrument like the congressional record to provide information to the American people so they know what their "representatives" agree to at those meetings or what they discuss.

The "Free trade" system you talk about is so far removed from the idea of our constitutional government it would be laughable, except it is irreparably harming American citizens. You haven't studied economics anywhere if you think "free trade" has anything "free" about it.
114 posted on 05/02/2005 8:52:30 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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