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Bosnia and the Islamic Jihad In Europe
serbianna.com ^ | Sunday, May 1, 2005 | M. Bozinovich

Posted on 05/01/2005 9:07:13 AM PDT by Destro

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To: FormerLib
When the Muslims and Albanians guilty of equal (or worse) crimes stand beside Slobo in the dock, those charges and that court will have some legitimacy

You are misinformed yet again, F-Lib. Time to update your Serb-victimization talking points. There are Croats, Bosniaks, and Kosovo Albanians indicted or on trial; to include notables such as Naser Oric--commander of Bosniak forces in the Srebrenica region, Ante Gotovina--commander of Croatian forces, and Ramush Haradinaj--former Prime Minister of Kosovo.

More Serbs are indicted than from any other nationality, but of course there are more Serbs than any other nationality; plus nobody else in the Balkans fought four wars against their neighbors. So, if we presuppose equal proclivity for atrocities among the various groups, by virtue of sheer numbers of people & number of wars fought, the Serbs would naturally have committed more war crimes and have more indictees.

In any event, if you based your posts on facts and the concepts of right & wrong instead of on emotions, ethnicity & nationalism; you might see why everybody from the first President Bush to the current President Bush, from Secretary Baker to Secretary Rice, from Senator Bob Dole to Senator Jesse Helms, and including Powell, Rumsfeld, and the Joint Chiefs all see the Balkans differently than you do.

21 posted on 05/02/2005 8:07:11 AM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

You're just gonna hate Bolton! LOL!

Nice sidestep attempting to shift to the Croats when I was talking Muslims. Do you think anyone falls for that rot, marky?


22 posted on 05/02/2005 4:33:10 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: sheik yerbouty; Bombardier

Unfortunately, we do have folks such as marky here who will support the Islamofascists until the bitter end.

Plus, he's upset that Orthodox Easter Sunday just passed and not one bomb fell on any Serbs that day. First Hitler, then Clinton; birds of a feather!


23 posted on 05/02/2005 4:35:01 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: mark502inf
More Serbs are indicted than from any other nationality

That's because the Hague is anti-Serb and a political weapon against Serbs and Serbia. They throw in a few token non-Serbs to give a veneer of fairness.

There are many mass murdering non-Serbs whom the Hague knows about but doesn't do a thing.

For instance, Miro Bajramovic, a Croat who confessed to being responsible for the murder of 86 people - most all civilian Serbs. He was doing this, along with the men in his group, under the command of Tomislav Mercep. He says he knows, by name and surname, all whom he killed. Many of those he murdered had been SEVERELY tortured in prison for days.

A Muslim within his unit, Munib Suljic, was responsible for many murders of Croatian Serbs as well, including a 12-year-old Serb girl named Aleksandra Zec and her parents. (A few months ago Croatia did pay the surviving children of that once wealthy family a few thousands dollars in compensation.)

This man who alone killed almost the double alleged at Racak, which was a battle, but is free and unindicted and ignored by the Hague and the mainstream press. His commander Tomislav Mercep, who was doing the same thing in Vukovar - torturing and murdering Serbs - before he was sent to Gospic and other towns, is free and unindicted by the Hague. The Muslim man, who accoriding to Miro Bajramovic, enjoyed harassing the tortured and dying Serb prisoners, and who shot the 12-year-old girl, is free and unindicted.

Further, Miro Bajramovic, says the same kind of thing was going on in many places throughout Croatia, but was kept quiet, and he says they would have gotten away with all these tortures and killings, if not for a few snags - like one of a the Croat oddly taking an injured Serb to a hospital instead of killing him.

The Muslims and Croats did the same in Bosnia about anywhere they could, but the outside world knows nothing if the mainstream media doesn't report it. Heck, even this case is unknown, but for the internet.

24 posted on 05/02/2005 5:03:52 PM PDT by joan
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To: FormerLib
You're just gonna hate Bolton

Be careful what you wish for, F-Lib. Bolton is an American patriot and believes in American values. Just like President Bush, he will stand up for what is right. If you think he's going to give a pass to Mladic, Karadzic or any other of the mass-murdering thugs in your pantheon of heroes, you will be sorely disappointed.

25 posted on 05/02/2005 5:28:09 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: joan

Joan, I know there are criminals associated with each of the nationalities involved in the Balkans Wars. As I've told you before, every criminal deserves appropriate punishment and the victims and their families deserve justice. However, there's representatives of only one nationality on FReeRepublic denying the crimes, trying to misrepresent the nature of the conflict, and attempting to leverage 9-11 and the war on terror to retroactively justify their actions. Murder is murder, even when the person pulling the trigger is a Serb and the victim is not.


26 posted on 05/02/2005 5:40:25 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
What's your explanation for why the media and the Hague have allowed people like Miro Bajramovic to murder 86 people and live scot-free?

Have you ever heard of Tomislav Mercep? Yes or No.

27 posted on 05/02/2005 5:44:19 PM PDT by joan
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To: FormerLib

They will both meet each other in the same place..


28 posted on 05/02/2005 8:49:52 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: mark502inf
If you think he's going to give a pass to Mladic, Karadzic or any other of the mass-murdering thugs in your pantheon of heroes, you will be sorely disappointed.

And if you think that's my "pantheon of heroes" little marky, then you are even dumber than your posts make you appear! LOL!

29 posted on 05/03/2005 6:04:22 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: joan

Joan, if you are trying to say that all criminals should be brought to justice regardless of the nationality of the criminal or their victim, then we agree.


30 posted on 05/03/2005 6:36:46 AM PDT by mark502inf
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To: FormerLib

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31 posted on 05/03/2005 9:53:56 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: mark502inf; joan
...all criminals should be brought to justice regardless of the nationality of the criminal or their victim, then we agree.

Ping us when Ceku is arrested, OK?

32 posted on 05/03/2005 10:37:33 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: FormerLib
Include Thaci in that list, and while you're at it, ask Mark why Thaci was let go when he was arrested by INTERPOL?
33 posted on 05/03/2005 10:43:08 AM PDT by montyspython
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...why Thaci was let go when he was arrested by INTERPOL?

He'll just blame that on the Serbs as well, you know.

34 posted on 05/03/2005 10:49:55 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: mark502inf

Is'nt it a tad curious when talking to soldiers that have been to Kvo and they sympathise with the Serb side? Many changed their opinions of the situation when they saw what the Albanians are, monsters.


35 posted on 05/04/2005 6:16:07 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell

Mark was in Albania proper, he never saw the Squipa terror to temper his biases. Brainwashing through voluntary ignorance.


36 posted on 05/06/2005 7:29:36 AM PDT by montyspython
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To: montyspython

yep, just am putting 2 and 2 together in figuring him out. I'm in San Jose tommorow, waiting to have hot chocolate with our residential idiot, hoplite in the A.M.


37 posted on 05/06/2005 12:08:41 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell

Heh, give him a big warm hug and a swift kick in the nuts for me will you?


38 posted on 05/06/2005 12:41:37 PM PDT by montyspython
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To: montyspython; Wraith

he has no nuts, they shriveled up from old age.


39 posted on 05/06/2005 12:44:02 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell

Hoplite Raisinballs?


40 posted on 05/06/2005 12:47:28 PM PDT by montyspython
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