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Bosnia and the Islamic Jihad In Europe
serbianna.com ^ | Sunday, May 1, 2005 | M. Bozinovich

Posted on 05/01/2005 9:07:13 AM PDT by Destro

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1 posted on 05/01/2005 9:07:14 AM PDT by Destro
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To: Destro

I knew we should have backed Miloszevic.....


2 posted on 05/01/2005 9:14:40 AM PDT by Bombardier (Jihad, Nazism....Umma, Deutsches Reich.....no difference at all. Same old hate, same old creeps.)
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To: Destro
Outline of the book Wie der Dschihad nach Europa kam: Gotteskrieger und Geheimdienste auf dem Balkan, which will go on sale in Germany in March 2005 by Jürgen Elsässer.
3 posted on 05/01/2005 9:14:47 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Bombardier
Two of the 9/11 hijackers were veteran jihadists in Bosnia. What did they do in Bosnia that made them so exceptionally qualified to kill Americans?

Not two, but five: Al Hazmi and Al Midhar (Plane Nr.3/Pentagon), Mohammed Atta (Plane Nr. 1/WTC) and the "Masterminds" Binalshibh and Khalid Sheikh Mohamed. Al Hazmi and Al Midhar were from Jan. 2000 until 9/11 under surveillance of US-Secret Services as was Atta's flat in Hamburg-Harburg. Binalshibh and Sheikh Mohamed are in US-custody since their arrest in 2002/2003 and are the main witnesses for the Pentagon-Version of 9/11, voluntarily or involuntarily they also work for US-interests. These people killed 3000 people, mostly Americans, but it is likely that they also worked for US secret services.

4 posted on 05/01/2005 9:16:15 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
Serge Trifkovic wrote about the "Bosnian Backdoor" into Europe in his book The Sword of the Prophet in 2002. Observers, including the former secretary general of NATO, Lord Robinson, indicate that over 10,000 middle eastern jihadist are flying into Bosnia every month from where they then cross into Croatia and infiltrate the rest of Europe. We should have bombed Serejevo not the Serbs. Now I understand why I couldn't go to the Serb Republic when I was in Slovenia and Croatia...they rightly hate us.
5 posted on 05/01/2005 9:17:36 AM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Destro

HERE is the main point of the article: the US was behind 9/11, and indeed is behind the Jihad!!! Of course they don't say why... WHY would it make any sense in terms of our self-interest?

Here are the relevant quotes:

"Q: After Dayton in 1995, we see Chechnya war start, then Kosovo, then Macedonia then 9/11. What’s common to all 5 of these events is Islamic militants and al-Qaeda. Is there a global coordination of these events and if so what’s the goal?
"A: The spider in the net is MPRI, a subcontractor of the Pentagon. They took over the Arab/Iranian weapons-smuggling in 1995, helped the Mujahadeen to "liberate" Sarajevo in September 1995, took the best Mujahadeen fighters after Dayton on their own payroll, trained them with the help of Turkish army and sent them to Kosovo and later to Macedonia. I could not find a link between Chechnya and MPRI, but Aukai Collins, an American Mujahadeen, who fought in Chechnya and had contacts with some of the 9/11 bombers, was at least on the payroll of FBI and CIA. Not Al Qaeda is in the center of all these events, but American secret services, which used Al Qaeda.
...Binalshibh and Sheikh Mohamed are in US-custody since their arrest in 2002/2003 and are the main witnesses for the Pentagon-Version of 9/11, voluntarily or involuntarily they also work for US-interests. These people killed 3000 people, mostly Americans, but it is likely that they also worked for US secret services."


6 posted on 05/01/2005 11:26:20 AM PDT by Jerez2
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To: Bombardier

"I knew we should have backed Miloszevic....."

I hate to say this, but I have to agree.


7 posted on 05/01/2005 12:22:53 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: FormerLib

Ping!


8 posted on 05/01/2005 2:12:45 PM PDT by Dragonfly
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To: Jerez2
HERE is the main point of the article: the US was behind 9/11, and indeed is behind the Jihad!!!

Jerez, you are exactly right. This is an anti-American hit piece by an anti-American Euro-leftie whose vitriol is primarily aimed at President Bush & the United States. He works for a left-wing paper in Germany and his work is normally found on such sites as International Answer/ACT-UP, the World Socialist Web Site and, this time, on FReeRepublic because his propaganda that the FBI, the CIA and our U.S. defense contractors are in chaoots with Al Qaeda is conducive to the usual lies promulgated by our resident Milosevic apologists.

9 posted on 05/01/2005 3:23:54 PM PDT by mark502inf
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I don't hate to say we should have backed Milosevic. I've said it from the beginning. He had as much right as Lincoln to fight to keep member states from seceding. Croatia and Slovenia started that war and the national government wasn't prepared at the beginning to go through Zagreb to Ljubliana and suppress the initial rebellion.


10 posted on 05/01/2005 4:32:47 PM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: mark502inf; getoffmylawn; vooch; Destro; joan; Jane_N; Andy from Beaverton; Nennsy; ma bell; ...
...that the FBI, the CIA and our U.S. defense contractors are in chaoots with Al Qaeda is conducive to the usual lies promulgated by our resident Milosevic apologists.

Wow, you'll let no truth go untrampled to support your blatant anti-Serb fascism, eh mark?

You just can't get your little mind around the fact that most of us like the fact that Milosevic is in prison (though we would have preferred a Serbian one) in your zeal to deny the Bosnia and Kosovo connections of al Qaeda. Either that, or Soros just won't allow you to step outside those lines.

So, does Clinton keep you in fresh kneepads? Enquiring minds want to know!

11 posted on 05/01/2005 4:36:04 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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"This is an anti-American hit piece by an anti-American Euro-leftie whose vitriol is primarily aimed at President Bush & the United States"

Are you saying that we didn't have CIA/Jedi operators training Mujahideen for their war with Russia? And later that they used that training to Help train the Taliban? Who used that training to fight us in Afghanistan and also to help with the 9/11 attack?


12 posted on 05/01/2005 4:44:32 PM PDT by Skeeve14 (De Opresso Liber)
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Are you saying that we didn't have CIA/Jedi operators training Mujahideen for their war with Russia

Not at all. I'm saying that the author's contention that our CIA, FBI, and Defense Department were training, equipping, organizing and controlling al Qaeda in the Balkans is B.S.; just as much as his contention that the 9-11 hijackers "worked for U.S. secret services" in order to advance the "Pentagon-Version of 9/11."

Over & above the simple ridiculousness of what he posts, go ahead and do a little search on the author--he's an anti-American conspiro-fruitcake who writes for a German communist/socialist newspaper.

13 posted on 05/01/2005 5:37:17 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: FormerLib
most of us like the fact that Milosevic is in prison

As is every decent human being.

Since you are glad he is in prison--why? What crimes did he commit?

14 posted on 05/01/2005 5:39:59 PM PDT by mark502inf
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What crimes did he commit?

Corruption in office, abuse of power, among others. What, you didn't know that commies were criminals? Actually, that wouldn't surprise me!

15 posted on 05/01/2005 7:14:44 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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Corruption in office, abuse of power, among other [offenses by Milosevic]

That's a good start F-Lib. There may be hope for you. Slobo did in fact lead a kleptocracy that looted Serbia's treasury and impoverished her citizens. In addition, I'm sure you join me in hoping for the speedy arrest of Mrs. Slobo & Slobo, Jr. and the recovery of all the millions the Milosevic family received from Saddam's Oil for Food money for Serbia's support of Iraq.

16 posted on 05/01/2005 7:36:50 PM PDT by mark502inf
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Corruption in office, abuse of power, among others

Unsurprisingly, F-Lib, you seem to have gotten a little absent-minded when it comes to the charges for which Milosevic is actually in jail. They are derived not from his certainly corrupt & criminal rule in Belgrade, but from the the atrocity-laden wars in which he led the Serbs against their neighbors.

And contrary to the revisionism you are peddling, Milosevic is charged with more counts against the Christian Croats than he is against either the Muslim Bosniaks or the mostly Muslim Kosovo Albanians. Here are the charges:

Croatia: 32 Counts of CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, GRAVE BREACHES OF THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, and VIOLATIONS OF THE LAWS OR CUSTOMS OF WAR.

Kosovo: 5 Counts of CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY and VIOLATIONS OF THE LAWS OR CUSTOMS OF WAR.

Bosnia: 29 Counts of GENOCIDE, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, GRAVE BREACHES OF THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS and VIOLATIONS OF THE LAWS OR CUSTOMS OF WAR.

17 posted on 05/01/2005 7:49:14 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
what of the precipiated illegal secessation from FRY by alija and franjo? those illegal maneuvers led to the war of the balkans.

I will write more this weekend as I temporarily return home as Im training mobilized soldiers for security operations til later this week.

18 posted on 05/01/2005 9:11:33 PM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: Bombardier

No argument here..


19 posted on 05/01/2005 10:23:51 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: mark502inf
Unsurprisingly, F-Lib, you seem to have gotten a little absent-minded when it comes to the charges for which Milosevic is actually in jail.

When the Muslims and Albanians guilty of equal (or worse) crimes stand beside Slobo in the dock, those charges and that court will have some legitimacy. Until then, neither do. It's a show trial attempting to justify NATO's illegal bombing of Serbia.

NATO and Hitler share the reputation of bombing Serb civilians on Orthodox Easter Sunday. You seem a little absent-minded when it comes to justice, marky.

20 posted on 05/02/2005 5:59:41 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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