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To: Gritty
"The only question remaining is, will the aged Europeans all be euthanised painlessly by their Muslim populations or will they simply slit their throats and quickly put an end to their secularized welfare state?"

How dare you make that accusation! (even if I've been making the same one for 6 months now).

Actually, once the Muzzies are strong enough (by my estimation, 30% of the population - in about 25 years), they will rise up and tell the old, white, European pensioners that they will no longer pay 60-80% tax rates to subsidize their healthcare, vacations, and chateaus. In other words the aging white European majority (declining) will not have a prayer against a strong, young, angry Muslim minority.

One has to wonder why on earth the white population in Europe is allowing this fate - they might as well start building their ovens now.
18 posted on 05/01/2005 9:01:38 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL
Its actually grimmer than that. European Muslims have large families and their children have large families well. In contrast, secular European have no children or one child at best. Project those trends outwards to 2100 and we have a majority Muslim Europe. It will be a very different continent and the world will be a lot different than it is now. Can you imagine secular values surviving in such a world? This is a wake up call for American liberals.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
22 posted on 05/01/2005 9:07:02 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: BobL
One has to wonder why on earth the white population in Europe is allowing this fate - they might as well start building their ovens now

They won't need to go the expense of ovens. Large trenches will do nicely.

23 posted on 05/01/2005 9:10:19 AM PDT by Gritty ("Appeasement is even less effective when the faraway country you know little of is your own-M Steyn)
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To: BobL
Actually, once the Muzzies are strong enough (by my estimation, 30% of the population - in about 25 years), they will rise up and tell the old, white, European pensioners that they will no longer pay 60-80% tax rates to subsidize their healthcare, vacations, and chateaus. In other words the aging white European majority (declining) will not have a prayer against a strong, young, angry Muslim minority.

One has to wonder why on earth the white population in Europe is allowing this fate - they might as well start building their ovens now.


We are already seeing an exodus to the Americas of Europeans who are concerned that "Europe ain't like Europe" anymore. A few days ago, I saw where a Dutch man and his family went to Vancouver because it resembles Holland much more than his home country. Trouble is, he only partially "gets it." He is still very lefty in his leanings but there could be a time when even he gets a wakeup call. What scares me is when the Islamics get a hold of France's nukes, we could be in a peck of trouble. Also when you have a threat of a massive invasion in wartime and you cannot muster enough boots on the ground, nukes will be used and it will get messy. This could happen if Russia with a shrinking population gets into a war with Red China or "Eurabia."
30 posted on 05/01/2005 9:23:48 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
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